Starker on 9/12/2023 at 17:16
That is right. No matter what Israel has been doing to Palestinians under its rule, there is no excuse for Hamas's actions. Killing defenceless civilians, torturing and kidnapping them is pure evil, as simple as that.
Nicker on 11/12/2023 at 13:55
Would the "one state solution" folks here please outline how that would work. Please include a timeline for required eradication of either side.
Thx.
mxleader on 11/12/2023 at 14:00
Quote Posted by Nicker
Would the "one state solution" folks here please outline how that would work. Please include a timeline for required eradication of either side.
Thx.
At one point in time in history there was just Palestine where Arabs and Jews lived together in the same area. I feel like it all went south when that Jebus guy took a ride on the lower case t. Not sure that there is any going back from that. I could be wrong though.
Nicker on 11/12/2023 at 14:05
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At one point in time in history there was just Palestine where Arabs and Jews lived together in the same area.
Right. The Semitic tribes, who share a language family, a deep history of conflict and cooperation and, apparently, the same sociopathic father god.
Families. Am I rite?
heywood on 11/12/2023 at 18:20
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If you don't want to be fucked then don't do shit asking for it. You act like that is a hard thing to understand. Why? I'm serious. Why is it hard to understand that if you want peace then don't attack? Explain. I'm not talking about attacking back. I'm talking about attacking first and then expecting the world to back you up on it.
Israel wages a low level war against Palestinians continuously. If not for that, I might understand your argument.
mxleader on 11/12/2023 at 18:23
Quote Posted by heywood
Israel wages a low level war against Palestinians continuously. If not for that, I might understand your argument.
Israel conducts counter terrorism operations to be more precise.
heywood on 11/12/2023 at 18:32
Quote Posted by Nicker
Would the "one state solution" folks here please outline how that would work. Please include a timeline for required eradication of either side.
If/when the majority of Israeli Jews and Palestinians believe they are better off sharing their limited territory and its resources, many different solutions are possible. But as long as they don't want to live with each other, I don't think any solution is going to work.
heywood on 11/12/2023 at 19:01
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Israel conducts counter terrorism operations to be more precise.
You mean shooting first and asking questions later? Yeah, that's one thing they do. Bulldoze neighborhoods is another.
Tocky on 11/12/2023 at 19:23
Hey, I can't imagine why they wouldn't want to live right next to those who are bombing Israeli buses. Or shooting first because when they can't get through the gate the bombs go off at the gate. And how else are they supposed to get the missile tunnels dug up if not with a bulldozer?
mxleader on 11/12/2023 at 20:14
Quote Posted by heywood
You mean shooting first and asking questions later? Yeah, that's one thing they do. Bulldoze neighborhoods is another.
That's a bit of an oversimplification. I was referring to anti-terrorism operations before Hamas attacked and took hostages. Those hostages are being traded for known and suspected terrorists. It's not like Hamas is negotiating exchanges for Palestinians who might be held for unsubstantiated crimes. They literally did a snatch and grab to be able to get some of their skill terrorist buddies back and that includes men, women and children. Also, when dealing with terrorists it's always best to shoot first and ask questions later. Are all Palestinians terrorists? No but there sure are a lot of them and a lot of supporters too.