Thirith on 20/2/2006 at 17:05
Soylent Green is people. Relatively speaking.
BlackErtai on 20/2/2006 at 17:14
Actually, I understand the arguement quite well, I just don't think anything I can add will illuminate the subject further. As was stated, the brightest minds of humanity have argued about this for decades, and there's still no answer. My thoughts on the subject are rather pointless in comparison.
But that said, it is definitely an interesting read.
Uncia on 20/2/2006 at 17:20
Quote Posted by Strontium Dog
Although perversely, a strawberry is neither a fruit nor a berry.
Or a straw. Those liars. :grr:
ignatios on 20/2/2006 at 17:32
Quote Posted by Strontium Dog
This, however, is true. Although perversely, a strawberry is neither a fruit nor a berry.
Aye, each little "seed" on the strawberry is actually a fruit, botanically speaking.
I didn't know you had an interest in such things, StD
Hesche on 20/2/2006 at 17:55
If I remember my botanic lecture correctly "nutlet" is the right botanical denotation for those little stones inside a strawberry. So basically a strawberry is an accumulative nutlet (I don´t know if I use the right english term here, it´s a direct translation from german), whereas a pineapple is an accumulative berry.
demagogue on 20/2/2006 at 22:28
Quote Posted by Strontium Dog
Onions are
Alliaceae. Lilies are
Liliaceae.
In the dim and distant past they used to be considered related, so I guess this is what causes the confusion.
Ok, in the same evolutionary lineage as lillies...
The source that I got that from was a geneticist making the point that geneticists and hortocultorists disagree (at least he as a geneticist disagrees) about where to draw scientific line between onions and lillies (and thus the scientific name they get, which after all is still a
convention ... wave your Q.E.D. elsewhere with that kind of "argument"), saying in his field it's useful to keep the two associated (though I'm not sure how closely). Anywy, in this guy's opinion they're looking at the same thing with different purposes in mind, so they can both be "right" as long as you keep their purposes in mind and understand what's really going on biologically ... that was his whole point. Not that it's a confusion, but that he's got a different 'use' for the label.
But whatever; it's his axe to grind not mine. I'm perfectly happy to not disagree with you.
So what's a pomogranate?
SD on 21/2/2006 at 00:48
Quote Posted by demagogue
Anywy, in this guy's opinion they're looking at the same thing with different purposes in mind, so they can both be "right" as long as you keep their purposes in mind and understand what's really going on biologically
A geneticist said that? He really should know better. It's due to genetic analysis that we now know onions and lilies, though superficially similar, aren't related to each other.
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So what's a pomogranate?
A pom
egranate is a fruit. Although of course, we don't eat the fruit part, just the seeds :p.
Quote Posted by Hesche
If I remember my botanic lecture correctly "nutlet" is the right botanical denotation for those little stones inside a strawberry.
Stones... inside a strawberry :confused:
If we're talking about the "seeds" on the outside of a strawberry (really they are the fruit) then they are called achenes. The "fruit" part is an accessory fruit (though not a fruit in the true sense of the word).
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a pineapple is an accumulative berry.
Yeah, that's right, a pineapple is a collection of lots of berries fused together.
Quote Posted by ignatios
I didn't know you had an interest in such things, StD
I wouldn't call it an interest as such, but when you do a degree in biology, it's kind of difficult to avoid botany :erg:.
Hesche on 21/2/2006 at 08:38
To leave all these technical terms aside, in this case the primary aspect of botany is, that pineapples give you an enjoyable taste.
PigLick on 21/2/2006 at 15:49
not in your dreams
Scots Taffer on 22/2/2006 at 01:12
There was a young lady named Bright,
Whose speed was far faster than light;
She set out one day,
In a relative way,
And returned home the previous night.
