Cobra on 23/12/2007 at 12:16
Quote Posted by "Acleacius"
Deus Ex is one of my all time favorite games but far from perfect, I just sensed it would be a better game if we could actually play a Non Lethal if we chose, without being forced to summon Darts, which should have been available in the game.
You don't have to - you can always switch to the prod or baton, or just stealth it. I completed the game on realistic with no kills without much difficulty, and I'm certain I'm not the only one..
ZylonBane on 23/12/2007 at 14:36
Quote Posted by D'Juhn Keep
As far as I'm aware, the event that determines Paul's opinion of you is whether the front doors open or not.
You might be thinking of Castle Clinton, which is apparently coded to assume you went for a violent assault if you go in through the front doors.
Acleacius on 23/12/2007 at 16:32
Quote Posted by Cobra
You don't have to - you can always switch to the prod or baton, or just stealth it. I completed the game on realistic with no kills without much difficulty, and I'm certain I'm not the only one..
Well that won't work, afaik unless we as player pretend it happens, for a couple of reasons. First as I mention, the game calls Prodding and Baton as kills, outside of Liberty Island and Castle Clinton areas, iirc, basically going down hill from a Stealth Non Lethal game, from there. Secondly as I mentioned in the Jet you are responsible one way or another for a Death, so it can't be done, currently on any difficulty, technically.
I have certainly done as you have mentioned as well, but like I mentioned, should we have to pretend to being accomplishing a Stealth Non Lethal game, when the game is actually calling us killers, while we pretend we are not?
Maybe this isn't possible, however if it's possible seems worth asking about, afaik this is the game's biggest weakness and I know many people pride themselves on Stealth and Non Lethal, so why not ask how or if this can be done? :)
Acleacius on 3/1/2008 at 09:23
Does no one know which file the quests and/or parameters are in?
I help with the Unofficial Patch for Bloodlines and when there is a problem I can go into the .dlg and .py files, making edits along the way. While I don't really know Python they are coded in, I can stubble through some of it. :)
So I was hoping someone could at least point me in the right direction, maybe the name of a file, a decompiler or the Editor I should use, or possibly a link?
Thanks. :)
I promise not to force anyone else to use my changes, hehe.
sergeantgiggles on 5/1/2008 at 00:39
If you knocked Lebedev out, wouldn't Anna just kill him anyway? It would be the same as doing nothing.
ZylonBane on 5/1/2008 at 01:10
Not if you carry him with you!
Acleacius on 5/1/2008 at 13:51
My idea is to be able to fail the UNATCO order but not have to kill Anna, which I think is possible since the circumstances for those results exist separately.
Or as I mentioned in the first post, I would also like to look at removing some Immunities from Anna but that probably won't work, since there probably isn't any acknowledgment we could do or maybe it would be necessary to acknowledge as long as we can knock her out.
Unless there was maybe a way to use Alex's email with the shock of knocking out of Navara, still since we know she obviously has lines and scenes in MJ12, UNATCO and Battery Park, which are too good to miss, imo.
This is the one scene that makes me feel cheated, trying to play as No Kill Stealth master. All other scenes I think have been solved, iirc even Simons and Hermman can be Tranq'd after their health is reduced.
It might be worth looking at to see if it's possible to let Lebedev finish his speech with Anna knocked out. No doubt it will be a little tricky, hehe should try to get Wesp on it since he only likes FPS views, not sure if he ever played Deus Ex.
