bacon on 7/8/2007 at 09:50
i cant use hamachi to play with a friend because he says hamachi wont run with windows 98 (he has an older machine). i am behind a router, but i figured that getting on a dmz would be enough to get beyond any port forwarding issues.
when i try to host, ss2 displays my internal ip, so i am thinking it cant get beyond the lan. how can i make my ss2 connect to the internet and display an external ip when hosting? right now, getting on the dmz hasnt been enough.
Kolya on 7/8/2007 at 21:42
Your friend is correct, Hamachi won't work on Windows 95/98/ME/NT. Supported OS are: Win2K, WinXP, Server 2003, Vista.
What is a DMZ? Can you link to the software you use?
D'Arcy on 8/8/2007 at 08:11
When I used to play with MightyMouse, he always had to get on DMZ for us to be able to play (he was also behind a router). Although he wasn't the one hosting.
bacon on 8/8/2007 at 12:05
a little more information:
my friend is on an old win 98 system and cant use hamachi. he isnt behind a router, so he is plugged directly into his cable modem and shouldnt need to forward any ports. he doesnt use a software firewall. when he hosts a game, he sees his external ip displayed. he cannot use hamachi because he is on a windows 98 machine, and therefore i cannot use hamachi to connect to him.
we are both playing 2.3 with the textures and model mods. he is using a game cd. i am using a no cd crack as well as a game cd.
i am on an xp machine and behind a router. if i am trying to get any game going with my friend, and the game doesnt work right away, i forward the ports. in this case, the game still didnt work with tcp and udp ranges 28800-28900, 2300-2400, and incoming and outgoing port 47624. when a game still doesnt work when i forward the ports, i go on a dmz. pretty much every game ive ever tried to play with my friend works if i get on a dmz, which is a last resort. in the case of ss2, it still didnt work, because the game was still seeing my internal ip when i set up a game, which to me says that it cant see out to the internet past the router even when i am on a dmz.
as a final resort, i completely unplugged myself from the router and directly into the cable modem with no software firewall at all, just 2 machines plugged directly into cable modems. when i set up a game, the game recognized my external ip, but i still could not join or host.
what is the error?
Kolya on 11/8/2007 at 18:07
From what I learned on wikipedia a DMZ isn't what's being described here (forwarding all traffic to one adress). Just some home router manufacturers like to call it that. In reality a DMZ is a server between two firewalls that can be accessed from the LAN and the internet but can't access the LAN itself for security reasons. Not a setup one would use for internet gaming I assume.
Hemebond on 12/8/2007 at 00:52
Quote Posted by Kolya
From what I learned on wikipedia a DMZ isn't what's being described here (forwarding all traffic to one adress).
Yes, it is. The demilitarised zone is the network between the internet and the firewall. By forwarding all ports to a workstation you are essentially placing it between the routers firewall and the internet; i.e., into the demilitarised zone.
Hemebond on 12/8/2007 at 01:27
Very true. I forgot that a true DMZ shouldn't be able to access the internal network. Wiki wins again.
Still, for the purposes here, the workstation is essentially in the DMZ and therefore should not be affected by the router.
