Angel Dust on 21/12/2007 at 03:14
Don't forget the Greeks were pretty good at that stuff too!
Another form of irony I've heard off is cosmic irony. That's the kind were it seems the Gods are playing cruel tricks, like Beethoven going deaf.
Papy on 21/12/2007 at 04:16
Quote Posted by Ulukai
Rain on your wedding day isn't ironic
Her wedding day is supposed to be the most beautiful day of her life. Birds are supposed to be singing under a beautiful blue sky, with only a few clouds to make the picture more pretty. This is what is "generally" understood. So when it rains... it is ironic! (This is the "cosmic irony" Angel Dust was talking about, although, depending on the person, it can also be viewed as situational irony).
Anyway, your post was certainly a good example of irony.
demagogue on 21/12/2007 at 04:51
What's the best example of unintentional irony people can find?
I ran into (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySVILcSmk1c) this recently. It's the most banal review of Buñuel imaginable, when he spent his whole life trying to smash everything banal. It's long, but you don't have to watch the whole thing ... ~5:28/5:30 to 5:51 by itself is a classic ironic moment, laughably unintentional ... coming off a scene of a bizarre sexual foot fetish, they go on to calmly describe how it's meant to attack the "respectable" middle class values that Buñuel despised, and then a girl in a smart, professionally gray suit reads the definition of "bourgeois" from the dictionary, a respectably helpful thing to do for their audience. You don't have to be on some cultural high horse to find it funny in how much it seems to miss the point completely.
One comment sort of summed up the situation with "Bunuel would have loved to puts ants up that lady presenter's thighs and watch her squirm" ... that and "Buñuel would have hated this video."
Ko0K on 21/12/2007 at 05:31
Quote Posted by OLmec
No, it's an indication that something is of or pertaining to iron.
eg. That shovel you hit me with sure is irony,
It should be that straight forward.
Ulukai on 21/12/2007 at 15:51
Quote Posted by Papy
Her wedding day is supposed to be the most beautiful day of her life. Birds are supposed to be singing under a beautiful blue sky, with only a few clouds to make the picture more pretty. This is what is "generally" understood. So when it rains... it is ironic!
I hadn't thought about it like that, but then I can't say I'd ever heard of cosmic irony before reading this thread. I can see where your interpretation is coming from; but when I talk about irony I mean, just, classic irony.
Rain on your wedding day
is a real bummer, though. Sadly Alanis' "Real Bummer" didn't make it into the charts.
ZylonBane on 21/12/2007 at 17:50
I wanted orange, but the machine gave me lemon-lime.
ISN'T IT IRONIC?!?!
AxTng1 on 21/12/2007 at 18:56
That's not Cosmic Irony, that was the maintenance man.
I saw that Ed Byrne video, but as with all stand up comedy if you try to recite it you sound like a fool.
Gorgonseye on 21/12/2007 at 20:04
My friends in school used to think irony is a type of metal. :(
I would have corrected them, but did not for fear of the nerd label.
Angel Dust on 21/12/2007 at 23:41
Quote Posted by Papy
Her wedding day is supposed to be the most beautiful day of her life. Birds are supposed to be singing under a beautiful blue sky, with only a few clouds to make the picture more pretty. This is what is "generally" understood. So when it rains... it is ironic! (This is the "cosmic irony" Angel Dust was talking about, although, depending on the person, it can also be viewed as situational irony).
I don't think this is cosmic irony at all. It's just sounds an inconveniece and lacks that twisted touch like Beethoven losing his hearing.
