37637598 on 29/11/2009 at 19:18
Sarcasm is the best way to tell the truth by lying. Without it, 99% of american couples would break up after the first fight. Sarcasm prolongs relationships between incompatible idiots.
Internet sarcasm, however, is a great way to test the waters of what you can and cannot say. If it's stupid, it was just sarcasm. If it made you sound like an idiot, it was just sarcasm, and this is why I'm the most sarcastic internet poster I know. Basically, I'm a big stupid idiot ;)
Kolya on 29/11/2009 at 21:53
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If it's stupid, it was just sarcasm. If it made you sound like an idiot, it was just sarcasm
We meant to tell you, it doesn't work like that.
37637598 on 30/11/2009 at 03:57
I was being sarcastic
Kolya on 30/11/2009 at 12:04
Oh I see...hey wait a second! :mad:
Rug Burn Junky on 30/11/2009 at 14:47
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Internet communication lacks several channels that can help distinguish sarcasm in RL. Prosody, gestures, facial expression, world reference objects, etc.
Internet communication does still have context, and because of the more stylized form of communication, that context can work in ways that RL doesn't.
For instance, if a certain poster has a long history of sarcastic answers, most people will understand that and treat it as such, knowing that it's tongue in cheek. Which will, of course, not stop certain other posters from misunderstanding and sticking their nose in like a giant jackass, but those people are usually just giant fucktards anyway.
steo on 30/11/2009 at 15:03
How does that differ from knowing that someone is frequently sarcastic in real life?
Rug Burn Junky on 30/11/2009 at 15:55
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How does that differ from knowing that someone is frequently sarcastic in real life?
"stylized form of communication" = easier to detect patterns over time.
Kolya on 30/11/2009 at 16:06
Not exactly if we're talking about mass collaborative communication like a forum. Idiosyncrasies get easily lost in those.
No one would have ever gotten dethy's plane.gif if it wasn't for the fact that he's a pretty ubiquitous poster. For obvious reasons I cannot point at all the individual patterns we missed, but I'm quite sure there are far more than we ever noticed.
Hence collectively used patterns are way more common, like the "confirm/deny"-fad. That has nothing to do with knowing a single author though, but the community at large.
Rug Burn Junky on 30/11/2009 at 16:17
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No one would have ever gotten dethy's plane.gif if it wasn't for the fact that he's a pretty ubiquitous poster.
In trying to contradict me, you just proved exactly my point. Thanks. Therefor: [INDENT]
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Not exactly
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Obviously you're not going to catch every pattern, but for any regular contributors there
are going to be patterns. These patterns will allow for detection of sarcasm in ways that RL doesn't in many scenarios, and may make up for some of what is lost in verbal and physical cues.
steo on 30/11/2009 at 16:21
I agree with you up to the point where you say these patterns don't exist in real life. Can you give an example?
