ascottk on 18/3/2006 at 06:06

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Remember when the animation wouldn't work when you added blsRope under the climber property? Well, I was looking through the garrett_08.sai file (telling t3ed which animations belong to which skeletal mesh) when I came across this:



These animations do not exist in Garrett_08.psa! There's only a measly 15 animations in that file! I didn't count the references in the sai file but it looks like around 100 animations! Here's some interesting ones:

75=GAR_PP_handout_loop
145=GAR_WE_FWD1
133=GAR_WE_LFT2
85=GAR_PP_grab
123=GAR_PP_crouch_handin
45=GAR_WE_RGT1
95=GAR_WE_FWD2
63=GAR_WE_FWD3
59=GAR_PP_crouch_grab

It looks like they were trying to implement pick pocket animations.

After looking at the t3ed log, it references some missing animations too:

Anim WallClimbAroundLeft1 (GAR_UA_MOV_wall_around_LFT1)
Anim WallClimbAroundLeft2 (GAR_UA_MOV_wall_around_LFT2)
Anim WallClimbAroundRight1 (GAR_UA_MOV_wall_around_RGT1)
Anim WallClimbAroundRight2 (GAR_UA_MOV_wall_around_RGT2)
Anim BodyForwardCrouching (GAR_UA_MOV_crouch_FWD)
Anim BodyBackwardCrouching (GAR_UA_MOV_crouch_BAK)
Anim BodyLeftCrouching (GAR_UA_MOV_crouch_LFT)
Anim BodyRightCrouching (GAR_UA_MOV_crouch_RGT)
Anim Sleep_Getup (GAR_UA_sleep_getup) perhaps waking up in jail?
Anim Sleep_Loop (GAR_UA_sleep_loop)

So if I get this thing working, we could have more interesting wall climbing, and being able to carry a body while crouching. Oh yeah, returning the rope climbing animations too :thumb: Maybe we'll have fully functional rope arrows (but I'm not holding my breath . . . I know t3 too well :mad: )

Problems so far

The animations are working in-game but there's no footstep sounds to go along with them!

Crispy on 18/3/2006 at 06:39

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Why would they that be hardcoded out? Sure, they might not have been coded in, but explicitly disallowing them would be completely pointless. Seems to me you're being a little too pessimistic here. :)

It may be that the animations don't get triggered at appropriate times by the code despite being referenced in the animation files, but who knows. I wouldn't expect a rushed game programmer to take the time to remove that sort of thing if he'd already put it in; and we know that some rope-related code does exist (simply because bIsRope actually has an effect).


So you actually managed to get custom animations in-game? Awesome, I didn't realise you'd got that far. :thumb:

Ziemanskye on 18/3/2006 at 09:14

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Are there 'missing' turning on a rope animations.

Given a lot of the movement seems based on the skeletal translation in the animations, maybe that lack of animation was all that stopped them working right?

(naively hopeful, but what the hell - even I miss rope arrows)

ascottk on 18/3/2006 at 18:18

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The sounds are defined in the animation's *.pan files, but I have no idea how to add those definitions :confused:

In the animation browser in t3ed there's a note at the bottom of the viewport (GAR_UA_NAV_FWD2_5):


Maybe I need to add something to the *.qc milkshape file . . .

Crispy on 18/3/2006 at 23:58

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Ah, but that's because they actually wanted to exclude those things explicitly, and independently of anything else. The "path of least resistance", if you will, was just to code that out.

But with the rope arrows there was no need to do that, because the rope arrows themselves could just be taken out of the game - there'd be no need to go and remove the animation calls as well. The path of least resistance would have been to simply remove the rope arrows themselves, without bothering about the animations because you'd never get to the point where you wanted to play them anyway. See where I'm coming from?