Nicker on 8/9/2006 at 21:06
AMS - I appreciate your persistence and clarity. I do understand that what Steorn is asking us to believe means more than merely adjusting the leading edge of a body of knowledge but expects us to abandon most, if not all we have learned about physics. But then I personally lack the expertise to prove or disprove their assertions. I’m not holding my breath hoping for perpetual motion. The Steorn device seems to be just such a machine, but I don’t know if it is or if it is something else altogether.
For you the issue is settled. For me it is a matter of simply accepting the opinions of people with greater knowledge and experience than me or seeing this put to the test.
Perhaps that makes me superstitious but, short of dedicating the remainder of my life becoming a physicist (not bloody likely with my math skills), ultimately I can only rely on test passed/failed.
Rug Burn Junky on 8/9/2006 at 21:46
Quote Posted by Agent Monkeysee
This is equivalent to discovering that [...] we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. We would have noticed by now because if it were true
the Universe would be fundamentally different.
It is true, you just haven't taken enough acid.
And now, sports.
Quote Posted by Nicker
For me it is a matter of simply accepting the opinions of people with greater knowledge and experience than me or seeing this put to the test.
If that's the case, then what he's telling you is that you're accepting, or at the very least entertaining, the wrong opinions.
The amount of knowledge necessary to form your own opinions may be insurmountable, but the amount of knowledge necessary to choose whose to trust certainly isn't.
Agent Monkeysee on 8/9/2006 at 22:11
Quote Posted by Rug Burn Junky
It is true, you just haven't taken enough acid.
And now, sports.
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreal fuckin' high on drugs
Nicker on 10/9/2006 at 07:35
Quote Posted by Rug Burn Junky
The amount of knowledge necessary to form your own opinions may be insurmountable, but the amount of knowledge necessary to choose whose to trust certainly isn't.
Eloquently put, RBJ.
Shug on 8/3/2007 at 03:31
So yeah, after about 10 searches I managed to find this thread again. The fancifully named ORBO has apparently gone into TESTING MODE as of January this year and testing will complete along with the year.
(
http://www.steorn.net/orbo/claim/)
PLACE YOUR BETS
as a side note, perhaps they have stumbled across something worthwhile even if it isn't as whacky as claimed
Printer's Devil on 8/3/2007 at 04:26
Dance through the Wikipedia links and you can see a few photos of a prototype Orbo device, too. There's a couple of amusing tidbits on the Steorn website, such as:
"Steorn placed an advertisement in The Economist in August 2006 to attract the attention of the world's leading scientists working in the field of experimental physics."
Wouldn't a more effective approach be to...well, telephone major universities and research institutes?
Fafhrd on 8/3/2007 at 08:50
Then they'd get laughed at over the phone, and that's much more hurtful then not responding to their ad.
d0om on 8/3/2007 at 13:49
yes, because so many scientists read the economist ...
It still looks like a giant scam, if they could actually produce limitless power indefinitely they would be selling it on the national grid already and making a large profit.
Aerothorn on 8/3/2007 at 18:58
The question is, what do they hope to gain from this scam?
Pyrian on 8/3/2007 at 22:05
Quote Posted by Aerothorn
The question is, what do they hope to gain from this scam?
Investment money, usually.
