Angel Dust on 10/6/2008 at 14:09
Quote Posted by Scots Taffer
But Crusade > Raiders?
This is wrong on every imaginable level, with perhaps only the very scarce credit going towards the score side as Williams was spinning pure gold in that movie.
Nah, you still have to give that point to Raiders. Every single piece of music in that film is ace. Obviously the Raiders March (Indy theme), Ark theme and Marions theme are the well known ones but the opening scene stuff, especially love the music when Indy is being chased to the plane, and the truck chase music, which is my personal favourite piece, are fantastic. How it didn't win Best Original Score I'll never understand.
jay pettitt on 10/6/2008 at 16:03
Jay's review.
Somehow considerably lesser than the sum of its (not inconsiderable) parts.
Scots Taffer on 14/6/2008 at 14:34
Saw it tonight. It was fun, a little less peppy than all the previous outings and yes, the the tarzan scene was fairly ridiculous but the most of it was decent adventure fare with more archeology talk than I think we've ever had in an Indy movie.
If I had to list the main cons, it'd be the lack of comedic timing in a lot of places second half on, really, the first half was good), Marion was underused and had a very muted introduction (plus the backstory was muddy), the father-son dynamic wasn't really explored (after their introduction anyway), the Skull could have used a great theme, the waterfalls and the ending inside the temple was a little over the top (with the vortex thing).
The pros were Indy, the warehouse intro, the nuclear bomb blast (it was fun!), Mutt's 50s switchblade palmade leather jacket motorbiking roughneck character is an unmistakable future version of Indy, the campus chase, the quicksand scene, the jungle chase (at least the first half until the end of the swordfight/ropes), the ants and the various little scenes with traps/doors etc and the hat at the end.
Edit: An addendum, except for the Skull not having a compelling theme, the other problem with this McGuffin (shut up Faf ;)) (I didn't mind the aliens/sci-fi element at all and as Stitch said, it was handled in an unmistakable Indy way) was that the end-conclusion their treasure was knowledge was just so out of left wing and unconnected with the main body of the plot, I'd almost prefer it if it had been about upcoming generations lacking the respect of the prior generations, like if the Aliens were pissed at being dug up, separated and then put back together for the purposes of cross-examination by the Ruskies whereas all previous humans feared the living shit out of them (that's just a very weak, made up on the spot example). Plus, if Indy had been involved at the crash site and had seen some of the crazy shit (electromagnetism, crash wreckage, foreign corpse etc) then surely he could've been a little bit more open minded about the whole affair, because him just 'tagging along' with 'Ox' just got a little bit empty towards the end.
Also, I got the feeling that everyone was a little bit tired, worn or perhaps unengaged by the material because some lines that could've zinged right out of the court just fell flat.
Scots Taffer on 16/6/2008 at 04:55
Jesus Christ.
I got my hands on the rumoured Darabont leak and I'm now thoroughly depressed.
About halfway through and this is the Indiana Jones film that should have been made. If I feel this bad, I can only imagine how gutted Darabont and Spielberg were... Fuck Lucas. Fuck him. That man is fucking dead to me.
p.s. if anyone wants a copy, contact me
Scots Taffer on 16/6/2008 at 05:18
Okay, after reading a biplane sequence that had me nervous, excited and laughing (ON FUCKING PAPER) and would've been the new gold standard of Indiana Jones action scenes I've finally come around to the same conclusion as many others... I fucking hate George Lucas.
Fuck you, George Lucas.
Fuck you, forever.
You haven't made a sound creative decision in thirty years you useless, neckless fat fuck.
Signed,
Scots
Angel Dust on 16/6/2008 at 05:19
Quote Posted by Scots Taffer
p.s. if anyone wants a copy, contact me
Ooh, me! me!
Morte on 16/6/2008 at 05:27
Ohh. Me too!
Scots Taffer on 16/6/2008 at 05:27
PM me email addies guys.
Angel Dust on 16/6/2008 at 05:48
Man, I'm only 12 pages into the script and I've laughed and been more excited than I was during the entirity of KOTCS. The jet-engine part as Darabont wrote it would have so much better.
Scots Taffer on 16/6/2008 at 06:26
On an earlier point:
Quote Posted by Avalon
the first few had
people being torn apart by airplane propellers and
melted from skin to bone into goo with the holy fire of God. In this movie, there was a brief spec of hope with someone being covered in ants (and presumably killed), but for the most apart they wouldn't so much as punch a guy in the face without making sure viewers knew he's okay.
Uh, in the movie I saw [spoiler]several people got MELTED by jet engines in the opening, followed by a few more wiped out by a Nuke, later someone got a poisonous dart blown back through their head, few folk got eaten alive by ants and someone got so much knowledged drilled into them that they burst into flames... not to mention plenty of people riddled with bullets.[/spoiler]