Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Nerd Rage

rachel on 24/5/2008 at 15:12

I actually tried Tarzan stunts during my trip to the Amazon, it's incredibly difficult (unsurprisingly) :)

Also, wear gloves. Trust me.

godismygoldfish on 24/5/2008 at 19:12

Indiana Jones would have walked out of this movie.

Angel Dust on 25/5/2008 at 00:08

Quote Posted by Starrfall

Monkey scene was probably partly a Tarzan nod. There are like a BILLION references/homages to other movies and 50's nostaliga in there.

And if you didn't secretly like it and wouldn't do the same in a heartbeat if you had the chance then you probably also don't like fun.

So what if it's a reference to another film? It looked crap, made zero sense and completely pulled me out of the film. The obviousness of alot of the references, especially the Brando/Wild One reference, made this movie feel like one of those spoof films. There was no wit in any of them it was just felt like the flm nudging you and saying 'hey, remember this one, I know it's got nothing to do with this one but that's pretty cool isn't it?'.

And as for your 'you probably don't like fun'.What is the point of such inflammatory statements? I didn't imply anything about people who did like the scene I was just explaining how I felt about the film which is what we are all doing here right?

Starrfall on 25/5/2008 at 02:48

You're not helping yourself by taking that so seriously ;)

You would swing from vines and you know it

Angel Dust on 25/5/2008 at 10:13

Possibly but if I did I would fuck up and kill myself. Now I'm not expecting them to have Shia fall to his death after the first swing but he was doing it effortlessly which made it seem like a cartoon. The great thing about the previous Indy films is that all the death defying stunts seem more credible because he barely accomplishes them. Harrison Ford is god damn master at taking bumps and bruises. We really feel like he's doing that stuff by the skin of his teeth which helps with the suspension of belief.

The Indy films have always been about over-the-top comic book action but grounded in reality somewhat thanks to good old fashioned stunt work and the way Harrison Ford plays those action sequences. Just watch the classic trick chase from Raiders:

(http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mwx55I1efJE)

I don't mind gags in the middle of action scenes, like in the above scene when the German guy tries to replicate Indy's feat, but in TKOTCK almost the whole second half of the big set-piece was a gag and the sense of danger, and therefore the excitment, was missing.

Fingernail on 25/5/2008 at 10:33

Overall, it was pretty fun, if flawed in a few places.

The chipmunks at the beginning were pushing it a little, I thought, and the monkeys. When the first shot came up over the paramount logo I was thinking "wait have I stumbled into the latest Pixar film?"

But in all seriousness it was decent, I had a good time, and there were some very good things about it - the family relationship was well done.

I didn't think it had as much heart or emotional pull as the last crusade though, which is I think the biggest problem if it's meant to conclude the series. It was all a little on the light side, and well acted though it was, there was nothing quite as memorable as the relationship between Indy and his dad.

Fafhrd on 25/5/2008 at 18:25

Saw it last night and enjoyed it more than I expected to, given most of the reviews. There were some early missteps (fucking gophers, what?) and some weird tonally inconsistent moments throughout (deadpan recommendation of a book by another archaeologist in the library while on a motorcycle, Indy explaining the difference between a dry sand pit and quicksand while sinking into a dry sand pit, vine swinging Mutt, Looney Tunes tree gag. But for the most part, from the malt shop brawl to the end it cracked on pretty well.

Quote Posted by thefonz

Indy's superspy/hero backstory - he's an f'ing archaeologist!

I disagree, and think it made perfect sense. Once the US was fully involved in the war almost everybody who was of age was enlisting (my own grandfather taught economics, and he actually enlisted in the British army before the US got involved), and given Indy's history of Nazi fighting, and involvement with two seperate Nazi expeditions for potentially dangerous mystical artifacts, and a pre-existing relationship with US Military Intelligence, the idea of him staying with OSS in Berlin after the war to make sure whatever artifacts the Russians took didn't represent an actual threat to the States worked really well.

BEAR on 25/5/2008 at 23:44

God, that was so terrible I am physically sick. I've been wandering around the house bumping into things, I hardly know where I am. I need to eat but I don't think I can even drive. I don't even deserve to eat having paid money for that.

Every second of that movie was torture, I wanted to walk out but I kept thinking that it might get better. It never did, IT NEVER DID! The overall storyline was OK at best but the implementation was just mind-bogglingly bad.

I feel like I need to convince myself that they all died in the end to be able to go on with my life. If that fucking Lebouf becomes young Indiana Jones I'll have to kill him. I knew when I saw him in Project Greenlight that I would have to do it eventually. His performance was cringe-worthy from the first second he came on screen until the last. I had expected him to maybe pull it off and surprise me but wow, he butchered that role so thoroughly that it was impossible to focus on anything else.

Ughng....I actually have a bad taste in my mouth.

I couldn't be drunk or stoned enough to enjoy this. Anyone with a soul do not see this, just forget it ever happened.

Scots Taffer on 26/5/2008 at 00:20

jesus you guys are making me petrified

Angel Dust on 26/5/2008 at 00:47

Hey, we're doing you a favour! The more we lower your expectations the better the chances that you might like it :thumb: