Hallava on 19/6/2003 at 13:44
The thing is, well before I joined the Imperial Legion, I talked to their leader (didn't know it's their leader and didn't much care since I wasn't even in the faction at that point) in Ebonhart and because I usually go through all dialogue options with all new NPC's I encounter, I also talked to him about "duel"...
As far as I've gathered later that shouldn't be available as dialogue option before you're ready to become grandmaster. The reason it was has probably something to do with the House Redoran guest also having keyword "duel", where you had to convince some chicken to duel a Hlaalu guy, which quest I had long ago done.
Quite a while later I was reading my quest list and then noticed the quest "Imperial Legion: Grandmaster". Huge alarm bells started to ring inside my head. And fair enough, when I went to Vivec's arena, he was waiting for me there, and if I killed him I became not Grandmaster, but recruit in the Legion which I didn't even belong to.
So to try to salvage the situation I joined Legion and now I've done all quests.. except that/those I get from their leader. Who is already waiting do duel me and will attack on sight.
I have tried charm and calm 100 points on him in hopes I could talk to him and make him give me the final quest/s. No use.
So does anyone have any idea how to get past this and still become the head of Imperial Legion?
RyushiBlade on 19/6/2003 at 17:20
Probably the only way is to kill him, then use the console to put him back in the world. If your on XBox... I don't think there's a way around it.
Hallava on 19/6/2003 at 19:53
You mean I should kill him, put him back and kill him again? Would that get me promoted twice? Or kill him and put him back to ebonhart with console? And if I can do that, can't I just move him to ebonhart now?
And what's the command to put him back anyway? No I'm not on X-box ^^.
Exile on 19/6/2003 at 23:06
the command to put him back
"*NPCNAME*00000000"->Resurrect
"*NPCNAME*00000000"->ForceGreeting
Or, if you want to put him in Ebonheart...
COC "Ebonheart, Grand Council Chambers"
PlaceatPC "*NPCNAME*" 1, 1, 1
"*NPCNAME*00000001"->AIWander 800
"*NPCNAME*00000001"->ForceGreeting
...or...
PCRaiseRank "Imperial Legion"
PCRaiseRank "Imperial Legion"
PCRaiseRank "Imperial Legion"
PCRaiseRank "Imperial Legion"
PCRaiseRank "Imperial Legion"
PCRaiseRank "Imperial Legion"
PCRaiseRank "Imperial Legion"
PCRaiseRank "Imperial Legion"
PCRaiseRank "Imperial Legion"
RyushiBlade on 20/6/2003 at 01:50
His ID (**NPCNAME**) is: Varus Vatinius
Ok... you can kill him and then click on his body and type in the console:
resurrect
Then click on him and type:
forcegreeting
I haven't tried Exile's other way yet... I'm too lazy to make a trip to Ebonheart.
Hallava on 20/6/2003 at 03:16
Thanks :D Can't see how that couldn't work, will try after work.
sappe on 20/6/2003 at 09:29
Quote:
Originally posted by RyushiBlade
I haven't tried Exile's other way yet... I'm too lazy to make a trip to Ebonheart. that's what the COC "Ebonheart, Grand Council Chambers" is for. It'll send you there.
I don't think It'll work this way if you want to be able to advance later.. The script checks if you kill him in the duel and if you do then promotes you to one step. This will cause trouble if you're not already Garland because the script only raise you one step and is asuming that you are already Garland when you face him in the duel.
This seems to be a bug just like you said, if you have the 'duel' topic he'lll challenge you to a duel.
Try this: set duelactive to 0
in console
:eek:
fatman on 20/6/2003 at 12:27
This same bug happens in the mage's guild when you duel trebonifus (sp). the topic "duel" appear when you reach the wizzard rank. if you kill him then, you will only reach master wizzard. So...... you have to be a master wizzard when you duel him to become arch-mage.
Hallava on 20/6/2003 at 16:53
That arch-mage quest is fixed in one of the MOD's I got, though. Quest Fix 1.2 by Nathan Strong.
I finally did it ^^. It was impossible to get him to talk to you in the Arena Pit even with Forcegreeting. He'd just say "To the death!". But if you moved him anywhere outside the Arena, he'd still attack you but now you could use Forcegreeting to get him to talk to you and get the final orders and advancement. Then I just moved him back to the Arena and killed him. A job well done.
Thanks for the useful commands, had to use a mix of them ^^.
One thing though, I'm not entirely sure since I tried quite a few different things so the final outcome was a bit fuzzy, but it seemed to me that the Varinus Vatinius that was on the arena wasn't exactly the same person I gave Lord's Mail and Chrysantine to (outside Arena), since I managed to kill him once so that he didn't have them on. In the end I had killed him outside, resurrected him, taken those items and then moved back to Arena.
Exile on 20/6/2003 at 18:00
he didn't have them on.
Yeah, the items are reset when an NPC is resurrected. The IDs for the tems are claymore_chrysamere_unique and lords_cuirass_unique, IIRC, if that's what you were asking about.