Vitali Kram on 26/4/2002 at 10:23
IMHO, immersion of ARX on first look stay on same level as in T2 and SS2. Cause of it in Engine and Sound-Art-3D work. But its only first look, what in rest of ARX which we not see yet? Story, world? I expect excellent results!
But one hour of ARX-DEMO have more IMMERSION and FEELINGS then whole Deus Ex game.
Dark Angel on 6/5/2002 at 22:34
i think it was better than Deus Ex though nothing compared to Thief or System Shock 2, mainly because of the horrid physics and player movement. Visually its right on par with Thief or System Shock 2 though yeah, i agree.
Vitali Kram on 23/1/2003 at 10:31
Bump
Nix on 11/2/2003 at 01:46
i could never get into thief..
I was immersed in SS2 more than any game in my life. Even more than DX, for some reason. I love the conspiracy elements in it, and I like the more realistic future look and feel, but ss2 just takes the cake over anything i've played.
I've played an hour of the arx demo and was impressed, but, I honestly dont think I will ever feel the same feeling I did when I loaded up the ss2 demo for the first time.
ToxicFrog on 25/2/2003 at 02:07
Yeah...I found (and still do find) SS2 completely immersive...after a while, /I/ control my actions, not that guy at the keyboard. Thief was incredibly immersive as well, but not to the same degree. DX just...wasn't, although it was fun enough. Arx I find not quite as immersive as Thief...and I doubt that anything can match SS2, although I live in hope of SS3.
Tozzifan on 27/2/2003 at 20:07
hard to say which the best, to me
entering the right spirit of each one (here I'm not considering DeusEx, quickly abandoned and forgotten), the dreadful rushing rhythm in SS2 (and SS1!, that I've re-played after SS2, even with the outdated graphics&sound), the silent stealthy reflective pace in T1/2, the mystic aura of ARX, all of them are quite enjoable on the same level
:)
Tony on 8/3/2003 at 14:31
For me, at least, Thief is the most immersive game ever. I have never been anywhere near as immersed in any other game. System Shock, however, held no terror for me. Perhaps it would have if I had played it when the graphics were not so outdated. Arx is somewhat immersive, but nowhere near as Thief. It's really cool, but it's not frightening. Thief is the only game that has ever scared me (barring a few "Boo!" moments in games like System Shock and Half-Life).
DMouse on 19/5/2003 at 03:07
SS2 gets 20/20 immersion for me. I'm not playing my character. I am my character.
Thief II grabs a 17/20 because its missions were so much better designed than the original and the graphics added to the immersion.
Thief was fun and tense and scary at parts, but I rarely actually felt I WAS Garret. 16/20.
Morrowind is wonderful and immersive... suffers from low frame rates, which snap you out of the immersion, though. Odd kind of problem but a serious one. 14/20.
Daggerfall was absolutely fantastic on 'most everything, but had poor graphics and the gameplay was totally unfinished. 12/20 on immersion.
System Shock was interesting, but the graphics were too poor to make me feel like I was there. Chunky pixels and black lines can't draw me in. Still, a very complex and interesting game... 11/20 on immersion.
Deus had too many unrealistic or strange points about it too immerse me, although I still greatly enjoyed the game. Immersion snags a 8/20.
Arx grabs a 6/20. Kind of like playing Unreal Tournament, I never felt like I was actually the person I was role-playing.
