Caradavin on 19/6/2006 at 17:48
Hi all, I'm an editor in every sense of the word and really can't play the games without dying before the middle of the game is even started, this being so frustrating I was delighted to discover with the previous thief games that I could use dromed to play the (stripped?) original missions that came with the game (allowing me to experience the game and environment without fear of endgame or ai noticing me if I wanted to). Is this not possible with t3ed (or maybe a god mode like with unreal?) :eww:
Caradavin on 19/6/2006 at 18:21
I see the wiki thread has a link to some hacks for that - yippee! Now, are the missions already in the editor to begin with and I just have to play each individually? Is it like the old editors where I can play the game too with the hacks?
Komag on 19/6/2006 at 20:30
It doesn't work the same way because there are global flags and things that won't get set if you try that (like you won't have lockpicks, etc).
But aren't there some other cheats you can do in the normal game?
OrbWeaver on 20/6/2006 at 09:23
The easiest way to cheat in TDS is to edit the AI difficulty parameters so that all AIs are blind and deaf.
Ziemanskye on 20/6/2006 at 09:58
and if you use the editor Opt version of the exe with the game run from the menu, you can still use the "God Player" cheat and the debug menu to make the AI stupid.
Caradavin on 20/6/2006 at 18:54
Z - What do you mean by "game run from the menu"???:confused:
Ziemanskye on 20/6/2006 at 19:17
Bad phrasing.
Basically swap the exe in and start a game normally, rather than using the editor or GL or whatever, not that most of that makes much difference - so long as it's the right exe you can bring open the console with ' (below the @ on an uk-english keyboard), or use the debug menu on backspace.
Caradavin on 21/6/2006 at 00:03
Are you saying if I just double click the T3MainOptVersion.exe, then it should support the console for cheats? Because it is not doing that for me. I've tried backspace and tilde, but nothing. Is there some trick? I don't understand what you mean by swap unless you mean deleting t3main and renaming t3mainoptversion to t3main but if I do that then I cannot get the editor to work...of course, since I would like to play the game before I create a t3 map, maybe I could do it...please help:erm:
Caradavin on 21/6/2006 at 00:42
Man, I am really disappointed in this editor. I think for right now I will just stick with T2. I'm surprised there are not more complaints about how un-user-friendly this whole editor system is. I'll wait for something more compatible to hopefully come out.:tsktsk: Now I can't run the game or editor or anything, keep getting error report messages. On top of that, somewhere in the midst of trying to play through t3 with mainoptversion, it changed my display settings, putting these settings right and rebooting has seemed to cause a major problem with running t3. I have wasted my two days off with this da#ned thing and don't have the patience anymore.:mad: Thanks all for your help, though, and it is nice to know that there is an editing community for t3 - I guess I just won't be able to be much a part of it. I'm wondering if my ATI Radeon card (9250 AGP) has anything to do with it.
GlasWolf on 21/6/2006 at 00:47
Quote Posted by Caradavin
unless you mean deleting t3main and renaming t3mainoptversion to t3main but if I do that then I cannot get the editor to work
That's the one (but rename files rather than delete them, makes it much easier to restore). Don't know why the editor wouldn't work after that but I have a 2 directory install which makes things much simpler.
Edit: some advice - wipe your T3 install and the editor then follow Komag's tutorial to the letter for installation in separate directories.
