Aemanyl on 14/1/2021 at 20:46
A contest focused on storyline, readables, and storytelling in general.
Karras35 on 14/1/2021 at 21:00
I would also like a contest where missions have to be made from an OM map. It should feel like an expansion of the OM where you are able to go to areas the OM won't allow you to go but also totally new areas. With meaningful stories and quests and references to characters or events that happened in the OM. Particulary thinking of Partytime!:cheeky:
What's behind that main entrance door of Angelwatch? How does the rest of the city looks? :sly:
Edit: For T2 of couse! And I hate restrictions - NO RESTRICTIONS
Supremcee on 14/1/2021 at 21:55
Quote Posted by Karras35
I would also like a contest where missions have to be made from an OM map. It should feel like an expansion of the OM where you are able to go to areas the OM won't allow you to go but also totally new areas. With meaningful stories and quests and references to characters or events that happened in the OM. Particulary thinking of Partytime!:cheeky:
What's behind that main entrance door of Angelwatch? How does the rest of the city looks? :sly:
I like the idea...but would love to see it taking a different direction (I think we have seen the OM maps enough, but I can see the ideas charme). My Shot: (I know that a contest like this has been made already years ago, but for my taste it didn't turn out the way I would imagine it) The Builders Paradise (especially our discussion in our T2 20AC episode) gave me the idea because it seemed like the better and more advanced "Sabotage at Soulforge". Take the setting of an OM but create a totally new map from scratch. All the objectives from the OM have to be included, but the ways to achieve them of course can be different. I think with todays NewDark and everything it has to offer, a contest like this would make sense and give authors more ways for creativity and a totally different take on a well established mission.
I don't like the idea of contests with limitations where on the other hand authors have so many new possibilities since new dark. (I appreciate the limited contests because it is interesting to see what people can come up with and to see all the different approaches but let's not limit the engine side for once....let's maybe limit the setting)
fortuni on 14/1/2021 at 22:42
Maybe a bit limiting in scope but there have been superb missions in the past set in asylums, strange and foreboding buildings where authors imaginations have run wild, producing hugely entertaining and memorable FMs.
Authors could use almost any building from a hospital or mansion, to a castle, a prison or even the maw at a stretch.
Even the contest title could have endless possibilities.
The Madness of Thief
Garrett goes Nuts
20 Years of Lunacy
Just_Pooka on 15/1/2021 at 06:12
I think the question of "How does the rest of the city look?" Is constantly being answered by people making FMs in their own way
Beltzer on 15/1/2021 at 06:36
Instead of OMs, why don't take an existing FM and change the story/map, open up new areas :)
downwinder on 15/1/2021 at 08:09
the old city before it was old,when it was alive with people kinda a prequal to thief 1 then you can reimagine all the om missions/locations into something brand new,also alot of story line would be unknown,garrett have parents,the creation of keepers,pre hammerites,pagans would forsure have a deeper story,viktoria as a child,massive backstory on Constantine,i would guess even a story on the baron as he was never in thief 1/g/2 or 3 maybe he predated them,also how the precursors/they seemed advance but all but gone in t1/g/2/3 only there ruins,were the murlocks around? what was the hag doing?
the thing i find interesting is in thief 3 alot of talk of older things were in that game predating thief 1/g/2 ,like that one hammer who saw the hag take the child from shalebridge
the time line seems so strange in thief 3 compared to thief 1/g/2 in sense of something mentioned
or it can be done in opposite direction as a post thief 3 scenario,are all the burricks gone,pagan just a tiny fragment?what will happen to keepers,does the timeline go to modern age where garrett becomes "dagger of ways"
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https://joemartin.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/thief-4-dagger-of-ways-videobrains-joe-martin-14.png?w=924&h=578Inline Image:
https://joemartin.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/thief-4-dagger-of-ways-videobrains-joe-martin-15.png?w=924&h=578Inline Image:
https://joemartin.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/thief-4-dagger-of-ways-videobrains-joe-martin-16.png?w=924&h=578i feel if you going to do a om type set up it should either be a prequal to thief 1 or a post thief 3,to many fan missions have already filled in the rest in my view
what are you idea's on what i think?
Karras35 on 15/1/2021 at 13:10
Quote Posted by Supremcee
I like the idea...but would love to see it taking a different direction (I think we have seen the OM maps enough, but I can see the ideas charme). My Shot: (I know that a contest like this has been made already years ago, but for my taste it didn't turn out the way I would imagine it) The Builders Paradise (especially our discussion in our T2 20AC episode) gave me the idea because it seemed like the better and more advanced "Sabotage at Soulforge". Take the setting of an OM but create a totally new map from scratch. All the objectives from the OM have to be included, but the ways to achieve them of course can be different. I think with todays NewDark and everything it has to offer, a contest like this would make sense and give authors more ways for creativity and a totally different take on a well established mission.
I don't like the idea of contests with limitations where on the other hand authors have so many new possibilities since new dark. (I appreciate the limited contests because it is interesting to see what people can come up with and to see all the different approaches but let's not limit the engine side for once....let's maybe limit the setting)
/signed
skacky on 15/1/2021 at 14:01
Supremcee's idea is pretty good. At one point me, Firemage and Squada were working on a pseudo remake of Blackmail that also included part of the narrative of Trail of Blood. We shelved the mission but I always liked the idea.
Supremcee on 15/1/2021 at 16:18
Quote Posted by skacky
At one point me, Firemage and Squada were working on a pseudo remake of Blackmail that also included part of the narrative of Trail of Blood. We shelved the mission but I always liked the idea.
Thanks, FireMages & Squadas idea sounds pretty interesting. In general I think, there are quite a few OMs that lack alot of fun (for different reasons) but "what could have been better" was discussed alot. So why not create what could have been better