RarRar on 2/5/2006 at 17:15
I tried and tried and tried to steal that damn Honorblade of Chorrol from the sleeping Countess. The bitch *always* woke up and sicked her guard on me. I have a natural sneak of 100 and 60% Chameleon total CE items. I took a Chameleon potion and used a Chameleon spell to bring the total up to an even 100. I tried many times. I undressed completely just in case my armor affected my sneaking, but the only affect of THAT was the barest smirk when she woke up and busted me.
I was ready to storm in here yesterday and call all of you a bunch of filthy rotten liars, sending us more gullible souls after some mythical
Bow Upgrade. Seriously, I had it all typed out with my clicker hovering over the
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http://sunsite3.berkeley.edu/ead/tools/moron/submit.gif but then I thought I'd try
one more time.So I created a spell to fortify sneak 100 for 2 seconds. Still no luck. I made a potion for 40% Chameleon. So my sneak was at 200 and my Chameleon 140 and I *still* couldn't get the sword. At this point I was glad I hadn't posted my earlier rant only because I had thought of some new, devastating insults in the meantime.
So casting about a bit longer I decided to try fortifying my Agility so I created a Fortify Agility spell 100 points (my natural Agility is 72) and topped it up with a Fortify Luck 100 for good measure.
And I got me a new sword. Now I don't even know why I wanted it. You can't enchant the thing. And when you equip it that ugly accusatory red hand is pasted right there next to it on your screen. Actually I guess I'm glad I have it. I was able to do some inventory remanagement and ended up saving 70 lbs, thanks to the sword.
I'm sorry I ever thought ill of any of you.
Lately I've been testing out spell chaining and stacking stuff described on (
http://inthexis.stanford.edu/oblivion/index.html) this page. it's a fun read and I've tried some of it but I don't see any difference. I'm certainly not getting any friggin 12,288 damage. So that nasty rant and horrible insults I wrote for
you won't go to waste cause I'm firin' up the email right now.
RyushiBlade on 2/5/2006 at 20:26
Any word on what helped you get the blade? Agility or Luck boost? Or just a combination of both?
RarRar on 2/5/2006 at 20:39
Quote Posted by RyushiBlade
Any word on what helped you get the blade? Agility or Luck boost? Or just a combination of both?
I suspect it was the Agility boost, primarily. But since I didn't test it every which way I can't know for sure (didn't try the Agility boost without the Luck boost, for example). Also, the Agility boost may not work without the Chameleon and Sneak buffs too.
Sorry, I just have no idea. I'm pretty sure I have a savegame still. I can test if you like.
Phatose on 2/5/2006 at 23:34
You know, I figured it was just so incredibly low a chance it was gonna require lots of saving and reloading to do it. So I just waited til she fell asleep, "Killed" her, and took in in that small window you can loot a quest important character in between when they wake up from being KOed and when they stand up.
Test-0 on 3/5/2006 at 02:24
Hm, has anyone tried to test if the Security skill effects how well you can pickpocket? Might be that the game makes a second skill check against it as well when pickpocketing.
Morvidin on 3/5/2006 at 04:55
I am still looking for the Fortify Skill Spell... if you remember where you found it that would be great.
RarRar on 3/5/2006 at 16:23
Quote Posted by Phatose
You know, I figured it was just so incredibly low a chance it was gonna require lots of saving and reloading to do it. So I just waited til she fell asleep, "Killed" her, and took in in that small window you can loot a quest important character in between when they wake up from being KOed and when they stand up.
I tried that too. Must be an awfully small window cause I couldn't pickpocket her at all.
Anyway, I reloaded a save and tried a few combos and Luck didn't have anything to do with it. I have a natural sneak of 100 so I can't gauge how important that is, but I didn't fortify it in anyway and it still worked. This is the magic combination (both are required):
1. Fortify Agility
2. Chameleon 100%
I did a 4 second Fortify Agility 100 points which probably brought my total up to somewhere above 170. Maybe an even Agility 100 would work too. Perhaps I'll try a custom spell and see if that works if anybody's interested. With potions, enchanted items and scrolls I brought my Chameleon up to 110% actually but I bet 100% works just fine.
So if you're having problems pickpocketing anybody and you have a high Sneak and a high Chameleon, try adding a Fortify Agility to the mix and I bet it'll work.
RarRar on 3/5/2006 at 16:25
Quote Posted by Morvidin
I am still looking for the Fortify Skill Spell... if you remember where you found it that would be great.
I'm pretty sure I got mine in a Chapel (I remember looking all over for one too, then remembered they sell spells in Chapels). Try Leyawiin.
RarRar on 3/5/2006 at 16:26
Quote Posted by Test-0
Hm, has anyone tried to test if the Security skill effects how well you can pickpocket? Might be that the game makes a second skill check against it as well when pickpocketing.
Mmm, good point. I have that magical lockpick that boosts my security. That *may* indeed have had an effect on my success. Can it be unequipped? If so I'll test it out.
WingedKagouti on 3/5/2006 at 16:50
Quote Posted by Morvidin
I am still looking for the Fortify Skill Spell... if you remember where you found it that would be great.
Only available through Abilities and a few Rune Stone Greater Powers.
Vampirism, Gray Prince's Training, Night Mother's Blessing (DB) and The Skeleton Key give it as an Ability.
Rune Stones require a certain amount of Fame+Infamy to activate, with the highest needing 60 or 70 total.
Both ways are good enough for Spellmaking and Enchanting.
