DonnerKT on 30/8/2003 at 18:31
My character (Donner) went to the Urshilaku Camp according to plan. He spoke with the appropriate folks and was sent on the quest to retrieve the Bonebiter bow from the Urshilaku Burial Chambers.
The following email has info that reveals some secrets about Bonebiter, so folks who don't want to cheat -- PLEASE STOP READING THIS EMAIL. For those who already know about finding Bonebiter, PLEASE HELP ME IF YOU CAN.
Well, Donner went through all the chambers and, in the process, killed the ancestral ghost, made it to the last chamber, etc. But, somehow, Donner either pick up but then later lost, dropped, or sold Bonebiter --- or he forgot to pick up Bonebiter altogether. Both possibilities seem unlikely cuz' I am pretty thorough when it comes to that kind of thing ... but maybe it is possible cuz' the ghost kind'a came at me from the side) while skelectal guards were also attacking).
I even went in using a new character and was able to locate Bonebiter "easily" -- kill the ancestral ghost and take Bonebiter. But, when I did it with Donner originally, the ghost came upon him so quickly, while he was fighting the other goons, I didn't notice any messages on screen before or after I killled the ghost.
It's been several months of searching and retracing steps, both inside and outside the chambers and all over the land. I've looked all over at least six times!!! The chamber itself, I've retraced and searched every crack-and-crevice numerous times. I've checked paths Donner has taked to numerous towns and sellers. If he dropped it someplace, it sure isn't showing up. BTW: The chamber is now void of the ancestral ghost (although the skelectal minions still reappear, as they do in other burial caverns and shrines).
Is there a way to find Bonebiter again? I'm on an Xbox, so I can't use the id-location feature that is available on PC games.
Donner did his deed months ago, so there is no way for me to go back to a pre-Bonebiter-lost game. Besides, he's head of so many factions and houses now, and covered almost every part of Morrowind ... I can't just "start over" with a new character just for Bonebiter. But, without being able to advance in his "main calling", all his other acheivements are bittersweet.
I'll need some expert help here -- PLEASE!
RyushiBlade on 30/8/2003 at 19:56
*jumps up and down* You can take the backpath method! But first... if you forgot to pick it up from the ghost, his corpse should remain there. Which means you picked it up and either dropped it or sold it to someone else. With all the merchant NPC's in Morrowind it'll be a long time before you find it.
Ok... for everyone who wants it, I took the time to type up pretty much the entire back path method, word for word, from the book The Morrowind Prophecies. Check it out (
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=68470) here.
If you don't want to do that, start talking to every merchant you see and looking to see if you maybe kept the bow in your house (if you have one.) Look in Balmora first if you like to spend most of your time there.
DonnerKT on 1/9/2003 at 19:27
Thanks RyushiBlade,
I hope I don't have to resort to the "back path". But thanks for that info. It seems a little like "cheating" so I hope I don't have to go that route (but glad that option is there in case I finally give up on continuing the Nevarine quest straightforwardly. I really want onner to find the Bow and continue on the Nevarine mission legitimately.
I've already searched the caverns multiple times for the remains of the Wraith. I really fear that the Bow disolved" due to the three-day-limit (which is unfortunate if that is really part of the code, since the bow is a critical-path item and shouldn't disolve the way inconsiquential items do).
I think I'll do a "beta test" of my own. I have an alternate character -- I'll have him go and kill the Wraith and leave bonebiter and the Sul untouched for three days. If Bonebiter is still there, then it is still likely that I somehow picked up the bow and either dropped it along the Red Mountain hills (or possibly sold it). But, in addition to checking the burial caverns step-by-step several times, I've retraced Donner's steps a half-dozen times across the lands he went to after leaving the caverns. I've also searched all the merchants he's been to.
My fear is that the Bow really disolved due to the three-day-rule. I'll keep y'all posted after I do my little test.
DonnerKT on 5/9/2003 at 16:12
Hey fellows who have had Bonebiter Disappear (and those that do not want the same to happen to you) ...
This is what happened to me. While in the Burial Caverns, the Wraith "Sul" came up to me at the same time I was battling a skeleton. I killed the Wraith (without knowing it was Sul) at the same time I was killing the Skeleton. It takes quite a while to go through all the caverns, picking up all the hidden goodies along the way and fending off attackers. My character, Donner, was killing the attackers, but not bothering to pick up their goods (the skeletons moderately heavy shields and swords). Donner was first going through each cavern, picking up the expensive booty, and then going to the central (waterway) cavern and resting/healing, before continuing on his quest through each next cavern.
Anyway, what happens when a character rests, and three days pass? If you kill an animal, humanoid, undead, or creature -- in three days the corpse will dissolve (disappear) along with any items they were carrying that you didn't pick up.
I did some "beta testing" on my own. This dissolving/disappearing doesn't only happen to inconsequential items. It appears that "critical path" items (such as the Bonebiter Bow) disappear as well, when left on the corpse for more than three character days.
Hence, I lost Bonebiter. Maybe forever? Thereby breaking the chain of prophesy and dooming my character to live the rest of his days as someone who will never reach his full potential (i.e., achieving the Nevarine mission he was meant to achieve). BUMMER!!! Does anyone know how I can get a hold of the designers to figure out if I am mistaken or if they will be creating a "patch" for this on XBox?
BTW: Thanks to RyushiBlade's link to the 'backpath method' (referenced on his earlier reply to me) -- there may yet be hope for my hopeless situation!!!
Moral of the Story -- ALWAYS check your corpses before three days have past (in case they are carrying critical-path items).
sappe on 5/9/2003 at 21:38
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Originally posted by DonnerKT
Moral of the Story -- ALWAYS check your corpses before three days have past (in case they are carrying critical-path items). No worries I'm on PC..
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Bunn on 11/9/2003 at 12:50
Nothing quite like rummaging through the pockets of a dead foe and finding a cool item :) I got the Bonebiter Bow a few days back, it's shiney and everything ;)
DonnerKT on 16/9/2003 at 15:08
I tried the 'backpath' method but it doesn't work for Donner because he is still not yet Nevarine.
He's at level 65 and has two-Donner-years worth of adventures, but since Bonebiter "dissolved" before he picked it up,
he hasn't been able to take the next step to become a Nevarine.
Any other suggestions? Does anyone know if there is another way around this? Or how to get ahold of the designers?
Again, the problem is that Donner killed the Wraith, but didn't pick up Bonebiter from the corpse-corpse before three days.
Hence, both Sul and Bonebiter dissolved into nothingness (this was months ago).
Is there still a way for Donner to continue on the path to BECOMING Nevarine?
Or, since I am on X-box, is my adventure - with all the time invested - sunk? Donner's head of the Thieves Guild, Mage's Guild, H-House, etc.
So, there's plenty of other things to keep him occupied. But, without his being able to fulfill his destiny as the Nevarine, it is all sort'a second-best.
Thanks,
rage_pot on 16/9/2003 at 17:26
I also lost my bonebiter bow. DonnerKt you may not have left the bonebiter bow.
It was real wierd. I retrieved the bow but then sometime later it had disspeared from my inventory. I suspect a bug in the game. Luckily I had passed the trial before the bow was lost so it didn't affect the main quest.
I am replying to your post because although I have completed Morrowind a long time ago and its now uninstalled from my HD. I do definitely remeber loosing my bonebiter in strange circumstances. This hadn't happened before and it didn't happen sincee. I dunno, maybe I'm wrong.
cyrano on 16/9/2003 at 22:20
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Originally posted by DonnerKT Is there still a way for Donner to continue on the path to BECOMING Nevarine?
Or, since I am on X-box, is my adventure - with all the time invested - sunk? Donner's head of the Thieves Guild, Mage's Guild, H-House, etc.
So, there's plenty of other things to keep him occupied. But, without his being able to fulfill his destiny as the Nevarine, it is all sort'a second-best.
Thanks, If you are on X-Box and the backpath described by RyushiBlade didn't work, you may be out of luck. Ordinarily I don't advocate cheating, but if it is a matter of restoring an item to your inventory that you already earned through your actions I would supply you with the console codes for Bonebiter. Sadly, that won't be of any use to you on the X-Box.
My advice to you, after you have explored all you want with Donner, is to start a new character, perhaps very different from Donner to have a unique experience (and not limited to becoming Nerevarine). I understand your feelings, but many will describe the completion of the main quest as anticlimactic, so you're not missing all that much unless Donner is the sort that needs to achieve closure.
Myoldnamebroke on 18/9/2003 at 14:34
Off the top of my head, I think it's possible to enter the Cavern of the Incarnate without doing any of the quests that lead up to it. That might kick start the main as if you'd completed the 3rd Trial.
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http://www.btinternet.com/~shrubbery/cavern.jpg) It's here (link to map to avoid spoilage)
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Only opens at dawn and dusk[/spoiler]