BlackCapedManX on 11/7/2004 at 04:14

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Actually, not quite, but catchy title no?

What I did do, however, is find a whole new weapon I don't think I was intended to find. An invisible, incredibly ammo-efficient rocket launcher (which I call the null-launcher because when you pick it up says "[null] added to inventory"). Basically, what I did was inadvertantly find a way to pick up the rocketlauncher that the military bots use. While trying to find out how well IS programed the collision detection for the milbots (because I remember all the fuss about being able to run between their legs, which I don't think you can actually do), I jumped up on the the back of a dissabled on (via use of speed mod) and walked toward the snout of the beast to see if I would go down in elevation or if I would simply stand on an invisible box in the air. Standing slightly to the right of the center and walking forward allowed me to notice a small (like, ittybitty tiny minute small) green triangle that I thought was sliding along the ground. I pulled out my boltcaster to get a good look at it, and realized that it was infact floating it front of me and selectable. So I dropped my shotgun out of my inventory and picked it up. It has the same text as the rocket launcher, but with no picture, and when you have it equiped, Alex just holds his hands out in front of him like he would be holding the rocket launcher, giving the impression that he's forming the rockets with his mind.

So you say, big deal, it's just an invisible rocket launcher that you can get a little bit earlier than normal, what's the big deal? Well, when you consider that it uses less ammo than the pistol, then it becomes a big deal (an extraordinarily cheap), but a whole lot of fun for a character who's goal is to destroy everything in sight, enemy or not.

Anyway, I just thought I'd shar this tidbit with everyone, I'll try and post sceenies if anyone's interested.

BlackCapedManX on 11/7/2004 at 10:01

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My well documented guide to getting and using the null-launcher:

(http://www.deviantart.com/view/8796348/) Pictar1
In inventory, note that it says, "equip (null)".

(http://www.deviantart.com/view/8796366/) Pictar2
Equiped Null-launcher, with full ammo (damn Alex's thumbs are weird shaped).

(http://www.deviantart.com/view/8796382/) Pictar3
Firing, though the projectile has decided not to show up yet in this pic.

(http://www.deviantart.com/view/8796386/) Pictar4
Here you can see the amount of damage dealt to the hunter bot with one shot as well as the amount of ammo used.

(http://www.deviantart.com/view/8796397/) Pictar5
Firing again, this time with enough delay for the projectile to show up.

(http://www.deviantart.com/view/8796405/) Pictar6
Destruction! Also note how little ammo has been used after two shots.

(http://www.deviantart.com/view/8796412/) Pictar7
Here where you can get your own null-launcher (I got mine in the Gate Ruins in Trier, but it shows up best in the mosque it seems).

(http://www.deviantart.com/view/8796428/) Pictar8
This is it (circled because it's hard to see), this little triangle is what you have to pick up (it's very difficult to find though as it is very small and floats in the air. you have to be standing to find it, even knowing where it is I can't seem to locate it while crouched and it doens't glow when you have super vision on).

(http://www.deviantart.com/view/8796438/) Pictar9
Here it is highlighted.

(http://www.deviantart.com/view/8796448/) Pictar10
And here it is added to the inventory.

Chaos³ on 12/7/2004 at 03:01

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Genious! Excellent find!

BlackCapedManX on 12/7/2004 at 07:38

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Any mod that works on the rocket launcher normally works. Ammo Scavanger is great, sometimes you can't even see your ammo go down.

What I want to do is see if I can get all of the other bot weapons too. Then I'd be a psy master, killing only with my mind. Seriously, the dual gatlings from the floaty bot, in place of an invisible SMG, how fucking kickass would that be? Pop on fragmentary shot and damage increase.... total mayhem. Terrible spelling/

[updateth]
So I went and managed to get myself up the null-shotty, null-rail, and null-autocannon. The shotty and rail were the hardest to find and, dissapointingly, are pretty much the same as their normal visable selves (except for like the noise they make) as far as ammo consumtion and the like, the rail also seems to have shorter range than normal, or just a major problem hitting the templar powersuits (or crappy aim, whatever), and the shotgun looks like it may have a slightly different spread pattern than the normal shotgun. The autocannon, however, is a fucking monster. Pull the trigger once and it doesn't stop firing for about 30 seconds, even if you switch weapons, then the sound stops but you don't stop firing for a good long time. Takes up about the same amount of ammo as a pistol (maybe a little bit less) for all that firing making it a very good deal. Slightly inaccurate (you have to aim slightly up and to the left, but that may just be because the bullets are coming from the lower right, as the discrepency is much larger at point black), and when firing at close range you have an annoying tenancy to damage yourself. It's not splash damage because you can crouch and shoot at your feet and not take damage, but if you shoot a close wall, especially if it's at an odd angle, then you will likely take damage. It may be some bizarre attempt at ricochet effects. So far the null-launcher seems the most practical, but the auto leads to some good times as well.

oh, and the null-launcher with refire rate and ammo scavenger is a fucking force to be reckoned with. Took out five elite illuminati troopers in about 20 seconds and didn't even drain a full clip.

BlackCapedManX on 14/7/2004 at 03:28

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I was going to say that you get the spider bot thing, because there are no weapons like it, but then I realized that the stun prod is, so I may check. You're in luck though, the cd is still in my drive, giving my lazy ass more incentive to hit the quickkey to boot it up. I'll get back on that.