Eshaktaar on 25/11/2004 at 13:40
Killing those fast guys (Ylsides) isn't very hard, if you know how. As this might spoil the experience a bit (well, not really), I put it in spoilers:
[SPOILER]Two common fireball spells hurled at an Ylside are enough to kill him. Just make sure you attack one at a time from a distance, so you can down each one before he can reach you.[/SPOILER]
Uncia on 25/11/2004 at 14:00
I think garlick = poison, no?
For me, the Ylsides drop from a single fireball, but that might be because I'm playing a full caster this time. The thing to keep in mind about fireballs is that they're rather hard to aim proper and have a tendancy to explode as soon as an edge is anywhere near them, so just walking into an enemy while they're 'charging' will detonate them with full force [there's no splash damage against the player. There is against enemies, though]. If you need two to kill them just ready two of them and push the shortcuts one after the other, the fireballs will explode almost immediately after and kill them. I've yet to be hit by baddies before the fireball kills them with this method, so I think it's pretty safe. :)
Lytha on 25/11/2004 at 18:40
Hm... do I understand it correctly that I have to kill the dragon for a second egg, if I use the first one for... something else than my "ultimate weapon"?
Dragon egg omelette, for instance. :p
The walkthrough was wrong, anyway... it said I'd have to kill the poor barmaid for using her kettle. But I just put out the fire, snuck past her into a nifty shadow (she went all "Get out of there!" for a moment, but calmed down again), and then she did not care anymore. That might be a stealth issue of course; I have the stealth at 86% or so.
Yes, I used the fireballs against the Ylsides, too. And my bow with poisoned arrows, but that did not deal much harm to them (but I read two "Backstab!" messages while I sniped at them.)
There was a bizarre moment in the castle, when I was in the secret passage from the throne room to the hallway infront of the kitchen. Two of the evil walking armors tried to have a go at me through the (closed) secret door, so I fireballed the secret door and killed them through it. o.O
Well, as long as they died, I don't care. ;)
Edit:
Well, I just killed the dragon in any case. I am a bit on a rampage at the moment because I don't like the idea of dwelling down to dungeon level 7&8.
[spoiler]Killing her was actually quite easy... I just grabbed one of the eggs, she went berzerk, I ran to the (blocked) exit and waited that she arrived. Then I moved towards her, until I basically stood inside of her (or on her back, dunno). Then I hacked away a bit with my assassin's dagger. After a while, it got a bit cold, so I cast a Resist Cold (not in the spellbook, right?), and then a Harm (also not in the spellbook, I think.) Well, then it was basically a matter of patience.
Done with a lousy armor (still only the stealth outfit (AC 10)), a mediocre spell casting skill (51%), and a lousy constitution (Con 8). I had to quaff 3 life potions in total. [/spoiler]
Deiyen on 26/11/2004 at 00:58
I think it's actually possible to steal eggs and not fight. I used telekinesis and melted the barrier by the exit and got the hell out of there. That cauldron in the tavern can be used with telekinesis as well. So you can stand in front of the counter and avoid the barmaid.
Garlic is for dexterity yes, the poison potions are for... poison... But like I said, I'm not totally sure about the enchants, so it's possible you just wasted some garlic. [shrugs]
The lower dungeons are quite creepy, but you'll have to go through them eventually to finish the game. If you feel you're not ready to deal with the creatures down there you can continue what you're supposed to do to build up some experience first. Kill the Ylsides in the way Eshaktaar prescribed... Quite easy to do since you can sneak up behind them and not worry about aim.
SneaksieDave on 26/11/2004 at 16:52
But...but...but!! But folks, you don't have to kill her at all. She'll give you an egg.
Think of the children!
Lytha on 26/11/2004 at 19:08
Well, yes. I already gave her the money for one of the eggs. But I needed a second one for a dragon omelette in the crypt. ;)
Aaanyway. I had quite some progress in the mean time. I am now in level 9, and in dungeon level 8. In the peaceful dwarven village.
However... uh, I guess you know what comes now...
I'm :confused: and :nono:
My faithful companion, the walkthrough, abandoned me one dungeon level above already (it just summarized the 'shroom forest in one sentence.) Now it tells me to put the power cell into "the machine"... yeah well.
There is a basically cubical room with a ladder and a catwalk, and a moulding form for a two-handed sword (so the "ultimate weapon" is a twohander? Oh dear...). There are also 2 cubes, one hole in the wall with a sign ("incoming") on the top of it. A closed door, and probably a hallway. There's also a level which is "not working", and on the height of the catwalk is another lever.
I presume that one of the cubes is the "machine", however I am too stupid to find the place for the power cell. (Drop it into the "incoming" hole in the wall?)
The fact that big teethy ugly is killing me so easily does not really help (F9 while dead would be nice)... and I even switched to a "real" armor, extra for him. I had to cast "bless" upon me so that I could actually equip it at all, it reduces my stealth extremely, the footsteps sound annoying, and he looks ridiculous now. But he has an Armor Class of 89. So well.
It's probably really simple if you'd know what to do. But a first visit on a map with Mr. Instantdeath behind me is not very funny. :(
Wouldn't it be cool if Mr. Instantdeath at least would look like the Balrog? I could shout "YOU SHALL NOT PASS" at him and drop him down from some narrow bridge... achja *sigh*. ;)
SneaksieDave on 26/11/2004 at 23:24
If you're speaking of the machine that I think you are, there should be a round port on the side of the machine. Easy 'nuff to miss. When I ran into trouble with the actual forging of the weapon, I used the walkthrough here:
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http://arx.rpgdot.com/index.php)
One thing I'd suggest though (if you are where I think you are) - if you don't need other than my power-port hint above, don't go to the walkthrough yet. You'll feel satisfied when you figure out what to do with the doggy. Oh, and I believe it's undefeatable in combat, so don't waste too much effort there.
Lytha on 27/11/2004 at 00:43
Yes, I was where you thought I was.
And I agree... that thing is probably not to kill in normal combat - it made sweet whining noises though when I stuck it full of arrows from that catwalk. ;)
Still... a Balrog would've been nicer than this teethy thing. After all, it's the same story: The dwarves digged too deeply and awoke some ancient, unspeakable EEEEvil... :p
The symbol on the front side of the dwarf armor was interesting. Looked like the Baldur's Gate 1 logo. :)
Speaking of fun stuff: I am a telescope junkie. Did anyone else notice how the sky looks different now than at the start? In the beginning, there was a normal galaxy in the sky; now it's... something different. I am not sure when the new cutscene replaces the initial one, but I hope for more changes. ;)
And well, I just broke into the bank and now I have more money than Gary. Basically, that beautiful and gold-loving chick should now fall in love with me. Gotta talk with her again. ;) That bank robbery was a bit bizarre, too. I had forgotten my stealth outfit, so I just took off all the clothes (the huge armor that I found when I met Kultar again) and went into the bank barefoot. :)
Deiyen on 27/11/2004 at 01:08
So did you figure out what to do with Mr. Instantdeath? Not too different from what happened to the Balrog. ;) You can also find a one-handed mold to make the Ultimate Weapon somewhere down there too. There are multiple power stones and multiple machines. The slot for the power stone looks like a small square with a circle in it.
I noticed the telescope thing too. I think it has to do with Akbaa incarnating with the energy channel or some such.
Lytha on 27/11/2004 at 12:23
Good thing that there were no more Mr. Instantdeaths around. And good thing that the levitation scrolls last forever. ;)
So, now I have a couple of very unenlightened questions.
Storyline
* When I spent the night with Alia, her face looked weird. What was that?
* What exactly were the Snakewomen planning to do with Alia?
* What happens if I don't resolve the murder investigation quest?
* So, basically it was the choice between leaving that planet all alone in the night (now that the Snakes die out, they won't survive down there much longer, I guess; as it was the magic of the Snakes that caused the plants to grow without sunlight) vs. having that evil god restore the sun. That's actually quite nifty. :)
* The whole murder plot makes no sense to me. On the one hand, I learned that Grandpa started that secret dagger order (to betray the Snakes, how nice of him); on the other hand, I learned that the Queen (member of the order of the dagger) planned to murder the King (or perhaps not, perhaps Carlo only faked that letter?) This is all a bit bizarre and I don't understand it at all.
Credits
* Uh, what is the connection between Arx Fatalis and TTLG??
