Hypothesis: No Hamas = No More Problems. For anyone. - by SubJeff
SubJeff on 31/5/2010 at 08:41
The breaking news that the IDF have stormed some aid ships that were trying to break through the naval blockade has started a storm of claims and counter-claims on the nets again. Comments on news sites are flooded with the usually whines and "outrages" and so on, with very little (if any) thinking out of the box.
Anyways, I've been thinking this a while and here is my solution to the problem: disband Hamas.
Without Hamas and attacks on Israel there would be no need for the Gaza blockade. There would also be no need for the IDF to ever attack anyone in Gaza.
It's quite simple really. Hamas may have grown out of a perceived need of the people to fight back but it's redundant and unhelpful now and it's time the rest of the world just told them to gtfo. To contrast; the West Bank, not under Hamas rule and not taking part in the same idiotic behaviour, does not receive the same level of treatment from Israel. I wonder why that is? Oh yeah, it's because the Israelis just like the sound of the word "West" in Hebrew compared to the sound of "East".
People will tell me I'm being simplistic. Why over-complicate things? End this nonsense, disband Hamas.
Vasquez on 31/5/2010 at 08:55
I have even better solution: No more people = no more war and killing.
Well, except among chimps, but that's their problem.
hopper on 31/5/2010 at 09:11
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
It's quite simple really. End this nonsense, disband Hamas.
Someone nominate this man for the Nobel Peace Prize.
SubJeff on 31/5/2010 at 09:19
Well hopper it just amazes me that people react with instant outrage at anything aggressive that the IDF do, without stopping to think why it happens.
In 10 years I have yet to hear anyone give a reasoned argument for the random attacks on Israel that beget all these issues.
And I'm betting I'm not going to get it here. I've posted that last sentence (immediately preceding this one) many times in the last 10 years and and every. single. time. I've been correct.
Quote Posted by Vasquez
I have even better solution: No more people = no more war and killing.
Are you volunteering?
The Alchemist on 31/5/2010 at 09:30
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Not 100% related but I was just watching this when I saw this thread.
Briareos H on 31/5/2010 at 09:35
Well it's kinda obvious that disbanding Hamas will stop many acts of violence and will make everyone's life easier for some time, there's not even a point in discussing that. That doesn't solve any of the real causes for tension i.e. land ownership & sovereignty.
As of today, the Hamas are still the idiotic but only way for Palestinians to be heard and remain a burning issue in everyone's mind. The minute Palestine stops having a way of being heard, Jewish settlers will be all over disputed land, escorted by tanks.
Hamas is not the problem, it's a shoddy, unfit but logical response to an illogical situation. The international community not having the balls to interfere in Israel's colonization and say "fuck you" to both countries' sovereignty is the real problem.
SubJeff on 31/5/2010 at 09:44
I don't think that settlers would be all over Gaza if Hamas renounced violence/disbanded. In actual fact I think Israel would get more international condemnation if it used force when no-one was fighting back. If there were no attacks on Israel for an entire year I don't think Israel would have a leg to stand on re: retaliation, blockades, assassinations etc.
Vasquez on 31/5/2010 at 10:37
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
Are you volunteering?
Yep, I'm not making more humans ;)
SubJeff on 31/5/2010 at 11:15
I wouldn't say they are more trigger happy since they don't regularly launch attacks without provocation, unlike Hamas.
What would be nice is if instead of Hamas not attacking for a year, Israel not attacking for a year and greatly easing the Gaza blockades. On balance of lives lost there would be less from the average sort of Hamas attacks (unless they pulled off something really big) than from Israeli attacks.
By the end of this year Israel could then tally up the number of attacks and present it to the world which would clearly show what a bunch of psychopaths they have to deal with. If they could show restraint during the Scud missile attacks of the 1st Gulf War they can do it for a year with Hamas.
However, if Hamas used the time and the opportunity of the slacker restrictions to build a large force and do some serious damage I'd then advocate total war and the expulsion of all Gazans and the reclamation of the land in totality.
