hopper on 9/11/2007 at 22:45
Quote Posted by demagogue
their bar pass rate is ~1%
:wot:
What happens to the 99% that don't make it after 4-5 years of law studies?
demagogue on 9/11/2007 at 23:21
A crap-load of bureaucrats and paralegals? Good question. City offices are filled with way more people than they need, too much redundancy, busy sweeping all the stuff lawyers would normally be doing under the rug (in my experience, anyway). Also it's not as big a major as it is in other countries, just another throw away undergrad major like government or philosophy that you get then go into business anyway.
Things are changing. They're starting post-college law schools, bumping up the pass rate to like 15%, and on top of everything starting a jury system ... all in this next year. Some worry that the world will explode by the shock.
I doubt that, but I'm interested in seeing how fast things will change.
In fact, that was going to be my scale (to keep this on topic): whether and how long will it take before parents start suing schools, and they start adding protectionist policies. It's my prediction.
Spaztick on 10/11/2007 at 01:55
Quote Posted by nickie
Well, from personal experience, I am violently anti the legal profession. And the threat of litigation in the UK has led to the most dismal decisions as demonstrated by (
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7006412.stm) this. "
Not trained to deal with the event" seems an incredibly shocking reason for a boy to die.
And I can't hand out a paracetamol but I can show someone where they can be found. Or so I'm told.
But back to hugging. My sister lives in San Jose. Now when my great-nephew died, she turned to religion for answers. But it seemed it was the happy clappy type. Some years later my son went to stay with her. During the visit he was dragged off to church and was completely horrified at the end of the service to find he was being hugged by complete strangers. He tried the Vasquez' solution of putting his hand out but was completely ignored.
I believe he's still recovering from the experience. :D
He's been traumatized for life I say!
Kolya on 10/11/2007 at 02:19
Hugging is a basic human interaction. That is all.
mxleader on 10/11/2007 at 05:31
Quote Posted by Matthew
Well congratulations, you just brought one. Your next task: find (a) sense or (b) perspective.
What would be the point in finding either? In the end I still don't care much for lawyers. I have a couple of friends that are lawyers and I can't stand them.
dvrabel on 10/11/2007 at 14:19
Are you seriously suggesting that untrained people should be expected to conduct hazardous underwater searches?
Ulukai on 11/11/2007 at 11:08
If there's a small boy's life at stake and they're grown adults who can swim, they really should be getting the fuck in there. Did the anglers in this case who jumped in die? No they didn't, it was a POND.
PCSOs are wank, several members of the police force have come forwards and said as much (can't find the link at the moment) Limp wristed 'policing' for a paycheck at it's worst.
We need more proper policeman wearing proper fucking hats :mad:
SubJeff on 12/11/2007 at 14:17
I agree that PCSO are rubbish. What a waste of money when it could be spent on real coppers! Then SD could get a job he actually likes! :D
But this raging against lawyers is the stupidest thing I've seen on TTLG for a long time. Blame the LAW not the lawyers. The reason those PCOS didn't try and help is that because they are not trained if they failed to save him THEY would end up in crap.
This is the nonsense of the UK. Scenario - newly qualified doctor tries to help someone who is injured in a car accident. He/she may well be sued by that person or their family if things don't turn out all tickity-boo and as a new doctor will not be insured. But is it better for the doc to try and help, inexperienced as they are, or a random person will no medical training oh crap your spine is gone and you're paralysed too bad? There was a recent case where a fireman was in trouble for entering the water and saving someone ,who would most certainly have died without his intervention, because he wasn't trained/it's against the rules/his superior said don't go in or something.
This stuff has nothing to do with lawyers and you people are acting like Daily Mail readers raaaaa attack the visible target not the real problem! Idiots.
Matthew on 12/11/2007 at 18:05
Thank you, SE.
nickie on 12/11/2007 at 18:20
Wasn't the law that embezzled our deposit money but the lawyer! (Or rather solicitor.) Thus my personal anti-stance - yeah I know I shouldn't do whatever with the same brush thing.
But all this, including 'not being trained', is mainly down to Health and Safety ruling our lives these days, rather than the LAW per se. Just google H and S and 'ridiculous' and you find any number of ludicrous rules that have been brought in which completely undermine whatever good work they did. Identified hazards that required a ruling include conkers, ties, christmas lights, making daisy chains (they might carry germs), etc. etc.
(
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=446245&in_page_id=1770) This is my personal favourite and yes, it is from that disgusting rag the Daily Mail!
But back to hugging. Hugging for close relatives and friends is a good thing. :D
