the_grip on 20/2/2008 at 17:33
Quote Posted by fett
Even WITH the preservatives, why does it need to be additionally sweetened with fructose, glucose, and corn syrup?
You gotta love going to buy some juice only to read the label - "2% juice". And it still tastes like shit compared to real juice.
P.S. (
http://www.bolthouse.com/) Bolthouse Farms makes a mean juice (if you haven't tried them). They even sell it at *gasp* Wal-Mart now, so somebody out there somewhere is getting the message.
Matthew on 20/2/2008 at 17:34
Completely tangential and I apologise, but I was under the impression that Tropicana didn't add anything, to their basic line at least? 99% of the time I squeeze fresh oranges for the juice, but I use Tropicana as a fall-back; if it does have hidden weirdness going on I'll have to change that.
SubJeff on 20/2/2008 at 17:56
Quote Posted by SD
Might it be less that vegetarian diets are not necessarily inherently more diffiicult to balance right, but merely that because we are in a minority, we aren't catered for as well as non-veggies?
Of course. I tried to be a veggie (just got sick of meat) last year but only lasted a couple of months because there was just no variety and I struggled to find tasty stuff that wasn't monotonous. All this despite living with a lifelong veggie who tried her best to educate me.
BrokenArts on 20/2/2008 at 18:20
Quote Posted by fett
While I agree with the sentiment of what you say BA, this particular comment confuses me. You draw the line at AOL speak. I happen to draw it a few steps prior with sentences that require a subject, verb, and period at the end. It's the same hang-up, you just obviously have more tolerance than I do.
You see, we're the same, you and I.;)
How could I miss this. Well, I was being a smart ass about the AOL speak. I was trying to lighten the mood with AOL speak, mix in a dash of shitty typing, never said I was perfect, and a steak for good measure. ╖_╖
We're the same? :-> Just for the record, I love reading your posts, and we do have good taste in music.
You know, in a nut shell, doesn't a lot of this boil down to moderation? Which a lot of people lack nowadays. We've become a lazy society, which like to sit on our duffs too much, lack of exercise, combined with a shitty diet. You be a fat mofo. To balance things out, yeah ok, throw in the genetic gene pool for the skinny ones, who can eat and eat, to which the fat ones are jealous of.
BrokenArts on 20/2/2008 at 18:28
Double posting, bite me.
With as much information we have today. We know what is in the food we eat. For the most part anyway. Yet there will be people that choose to stuff their faces with garbage, thats their choice. Living is hazardous to your health. Too much of anything, isn't good, it will catch up to you eventually.
/me passes the cows tea and crumpets to relax before they die.
fett on 20/2/2008 at 18:37
Quote Posted by Matthew
Completely tangential and I apologise, but I was under the impression that Tropicana didn't add anything, to their basic line at least? 99% of the time I squeeze fresh oranges for the juice, but I use Tropicana as a fall-back; if it does have hidden weirdness going on I'll have to change that.
Actually the basic line in the jug IS all natural, but the portable boxes, concentrate, and all the other varieties with 'added calcium' 'added fiber' etc. have some form of processed gluten and a shitload of starches in them. The basic Tropicana was the only thing our gluten-allergic 2yo could tolerate for the longest time.
Juice manufacturers are bastards and so is the FDA. They're allowed to call it 'gluten free' or 'preservative free' so long as they add nothing to it. But MOST of those juices are packaged or processed by a separate company who may add something during the packing processes to 'preserve freshness' or may add something during the dehydration process to help preserve flavor when the concentrate is rehydrated. In that case, the original company (Welch's, Tropicana, etc.) aren't required by the FDA to change the label because it was *technically* gluten/preservative free when it left *their* plant. My research shows that only Juicy Juice and Tropicana (100% juice in the jug) actually follow the process all the way through to ensure that nothing else is added. And you really can taste a difference. Once you've kicked the gluten habit, you can almost smell it in food and drink - and it creates this weird pasty film in your mouth that you used to not notice. Same thing with corn syrup.
The FDA is a fucked up organization. :weird:
d0om on 20/2/2008 at 18:44
Quote Posted by LeatherMan
In short, it's the carbohydrates served with the meats that are the root cause of our obesity epidemic, not the meat itself.
Well, actually its probably to do with a lack of exercise. When doing proper training before a competition its often hard to eat enough calories without resorting to eating tons and tons of pasta and chocolate.
But yes, eating too many calories without exercise causes obesity, regardless of what you are eating. Its just its hard to eat enough raw vegetables to make yourself obese as they have a low calorie/weight density, while deep fried anything has a very high energy density.
also
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BrokenArts on 20/2/2008 at 18:58
I'd like to see a list, possibly the top 5 foods/additives, whatever, you should really stay away from. Yeah, we've all read a thing or two here and there. But, no real list that I've seen, of things to avoid, and give reasons as to why. If there is one, point me in the right direction.
We can come up with our own personal list, based on what we know that doesn't agree with us.
Yes, High Fructose Corn Syrup, what else? Carbs, fats, the bad fats, etc, etc. What are the most detrimental items we could possibly put into our bodies, that are food related. I just did a search, there is so much information out there, it boggles the mind.
june gloom on 20/2/2008 at 21:31
How about aspartame? That shit is 100% why I absolutely 100% refuse to drink diet soda.
Hm, let me think.
Yellow 6. This is a commonly-known one, found in baked goods, gelatin, et cetera.
MSG, another commonly known unhealthy additive.
the_grip on 20/2/2008 at 21:35
i could be wrong here, but, if memory serves me correctly, aspartame is in a shitload of gum. If you chew gum and want to avoid aspartame, you might check the label.
