Komag on 1/3/2005 at 16:36
Quote Posted by plebeian
As for making the old levels, there really isn't a damn thing Eidos can do about it, if it's just individuals lovingly recreating their favoutire thief level. If it was a concerted effort to remake the entire game by an organised group, that could well run into trouble.
You might reconsider speaking of that which you do not know about. That said, I agree with your sentiment, and I wouldn't worry about "re-envisioning" some classic Thief missions, but I think they would be much better made from scratch.
[NAUC]Chief on 1/3/2005 at 16:40
couldnt you do as the rom sites do and host files saying "This is an exact brush copy from the original thief1/2 - it is illegal for you to download the file if you do not own the original game" ?
As to obj export - I believe you can now d/l the ut2k4 ued (tho not certain)- i dunno if it would work but u may be able to d/l it and use it just for import export.
New Horizon on 1/3/2005 at 16:51
Quote Posted by plebeian
Deadman, obj export is obviousy another feature they ripped out of the unreal editor.
Tell me which levels you want as obj and I can email them to you, they're only about 500kb when rar compressed.
As for making the old levels, there really isn't a damn thing Eidos can do about it, if it's just individuals lovingly recreating their favoutire thief level. If it was a concerted effort to remake the entire game by an organised group, that could well run into trouble.
If an individual is found to have been passing around clones of old levels, I would not be so eager to say they could do nothing about it. I don't think companies would think twice about squashing such an effort...individual or group.
plebeian on 1/3/2005 at 17:00
The idea of Eidos going after some guy for building a remake of this favourite level from a seven year old Eidos game, in a brand new Eidos level editor, would be beyond a joke.
They must have known this would happen before they released it.
[NAUC]Chief on 1/3/2005 at 17:42
btw can anyone tell me how to install this plugin for gmax- i tried run/open maxscript but it didnt seem to do anything-think i need an idiots guide:) the script (which lets gmax import obj) can be found here:
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http://www.scriptspot.com/download.asp?ID=1273) Import Obj Gmax
Thanks:) - ah i finally found a tutorial-and found the plugin is too old and cant import the obj files i wanted-ah well seemed like a good idea at the time :laff:
New Horizon on 1/3/2005 at 18:08
Quote Posted by plebeian
The idea of Eidos going after some guy for building a remake of this favourite level from a seven year old Eidos game, in a brand new Eidos level editor, would be beyond a joke.
They must have known this would happen before they released it.
All I'm saying is....never underestimate reactions. Of course it's silly but that certainly doesn't mean anything. Muscle flexing is just a fact of life in instances like this.
deadman on 1/3/2005 at 19:03
Quote Posted by New Horizon
If an individual is found to have been passing around clones of old levels, I would not be so eager to say they could do nothing about it. I don't think companies would think twice about squashing such an effort...individual or group.
Only, at least in this specific case, I
own the original games (well, Thief Gold and Thief 2, but I'm planning to buy the Platinum pack one of these days), so I doubt that would give Eidos much reason to 'squash' such a transaction. Again, at least from what others have argued, it's a matter of folks who
don't own a certain game being able to play levels from that game on another engine, therefore having a potential to piss off whoever would get the profits (however little) from the game whose levels have been taken from. I once more suggest the disclaimer method. It's worked well enough for rom hosting, so why wouldn't it keep the heat off the host's back in this case, if they make it explicitly clear that one can't download a mission conversion without owning the game it came from?
deadman.
Komag on 1/3/2005 at 22:05
Quote Posted by plebeian
The idea of Eidos going after some guy for building a remake of this favourite level from a seven year old Eidos game, in a brand new Eidos level editor, would be beyond a joke.
They must have known this would happen before they released it.
okay, re-reconsider...
ZylonBane on 1/3/2005 at 22:37
Quote Posted by New Horizon
If an individual is found to have been passing around clones of old levels, I would not be so eager to say they could do nothing about it. I don't think companies would think twice about squashing such an effort...individual or group.
If it worked that way, projects like the Citadel Conversion Project or Classic Doom for Doom 3 would have been squashed long, long ago. Companies are generally fine with porting content from one game to another as long as they own the rights to both games.
[NAUC]Chief on 2/3/2005 at 08:59
Just to let those who dont know know. A 3dStudio7 demo (30 days trial-full features) is available from discreet- its an 83mb download :D
