Bucky Seifert on 8/8/2024 at 05:33
I know that LGS always planned to have the Keepers have a more central role in their T3, and that it would involve something crazy, but I find myself wondering if we have any idea to what extent was the original vision for the story implemented (ignoring gameplay compromises), and how much was changed between LGS and IS, considering that numerous LGS alum would move there but many also wouldn't.
FenPhoenix on 8/8/2024 at 10:44
I know this will be unhelpful, but there was a Twitch stream years ago where some of the LGS devs were either playing or in chat, and answering questions. Someone asked this question and one of the devs said that the Thief 3 plot pretty much didn't change at all, which I remember because it was surprising given how much else changed. However, I don't know if the stream (or the chat) was ever saved and I haven't been able to find it, but I'm asking around if anyone else remembers. Unless and until I can find a saved version of that stream, I'm really just a guy on the internet making unsubstantiated claims, so it doesn't answer your question authoritatively, unfortunately. Sorry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Bucky Seifert on 9/8/2024 at 00:50
Quote Posted by FenPhoenix
I know this will be unhelpful, but there was a Twitch stream years ago where some of the LGS devs were either playing or in chat, and answering questions. Someone asked this question and one of the devs said that the Thief 3 plot pretty much didn't change at all, which I remember because it was surprising given how much else changed. However, I don't know if the stream (or the chat) was ever saved and I haven't been able to find it, but I'm asking around if anyone else remembers. Unless and until I can find a saved version of that stream, I'm really just a guy on the internet making unsubstantiated claims, so it doesn't answer your question authoritatively, unfortunately. Sorry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I can believe it. There are some things planted in Thief 1 and 2 that at least somewhat elude to what would happen in 3. I always figured the biggest divergences came from the gameplay. Wish we could see into an alternate timeline and see what LGS' Thief 3 would have played like, and what they might have done with a 4th game since IIRC they did plan on doing it, even if not right after releasing 3.
downwinder on 9/8/2024 at 03:56
the mystery of the murlocks is very deep in thief 3
but it is known the woodsie lord himself was fond of them, until they took the kershawk crown
New Horizon on 9/8/2024 at 16:35
Quote Posted by Bucky Seifert
I can believe it. There are some things planted in Thief 1 and 2 that at least somewhat elude to what would happen in 3. I always figured the biggest divergences came from the gameplay. Wish we could see into an alternate timeline and see what LGS' Thief 3 would have played like, and what they might have done with a 4th game since IIRC they did plan on doing it, even if not right after releasing 3.
If I recall, an LGS Thief 3 was to have been built on the next iteration of the Dark Engine. Wasn't there a community project porting the Thief 3 missions into New Dark? I would have loved to see that completed and have the missions expanded to incorporate swimming and rope arrows.
downwinder on 9/8/2024 at 18:16
change to engine was ion storm Texas decision = warren spector
and yes there is a map of thief 3 hub , and even some fan mission where made using it, brethren made a great fan mission using the thief 3 map, made/converted to thief 2 new dark
Outsider One on 10/8/2024 at 01:11
Quote Posted by FenPhoenix
I know this will be unhelpful, but there was a Twitch stream years ago where some of the LGS devs were either playing or in chat, and answering questions. Someone asked this question and one of the devs said that the Thief 3 plot pretty much didn't change at all, which I remember because it was surprising given how much else changed. However, I don't know if the stream (or the chat) was ever saved and I haven't been able to find it, but I'm asking around if anyone else remembers. Unless and until I can find a saved version of that stream, I'm really just a guy on the internet making unsubstantiated claims, so it doesn't answer your question authoritatively, unfortunately. Sorry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I think this is what you are looking for.
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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/46919037)
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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/46919127)
Marconiex on 16/8/2024 at 20:49
From what I know, the Keepers were supposed to be a bigger deal in LGS's version, but it's tough to say what exactly changed when IS took over.