EomerThief on 19/7/2004 at 20:30

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Artemus was a fairly important character in TDS, but what about the two games? After hearing his voice on TDS I think he is also the Keeper who meets with Garrett in the endgame scene of TDP. Just an observation.

Fallen+Keeper on 19/7/2004 at 21:57

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SOME SPOILERS ABOUT Thief 1 and Thief 2.

Yes. Artemus is the one who hired Garrett in his youth. He could have been quite old at that time, even if his voice didn't show that. Garrett said "Let go of me, old man!".

On the other hand, in the real medieval times, the young ones 10-14 saw those in middle thirties as old men, so if the LGers were faithful to that little detail, we can only speculate how really old Artemus was at that time. At the end of the game however we hear his voice much older. At least 10 years. Nate Wells is credited for the voice even if he is called "Keeper Nate" but only because at that time no Keeper had a name.

In Thief 2, it is still Artemus that warns Garrett of Truart's plan. And even if he sounds a little bit differently, Nate Wells is once again credited for his voice. The other ones are Ian Vogel (("Find the humour if you must, but can you tell me truly Garrett? Are there any trees in your part of town?") and Daniel Thron ("Have you heard the Interpreter's words?").

A note: The Keeper that helped Garrett in Escape! was still Artemus even if he had the voice of Daniel Thron who tried to emulate it in order to sound as "older Artemus". Maybe Nate Wells wasn't available during the developing of that cutscene.

Idiotbox on 20/7/2004 at 06:12

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In my humble opinion

[SPOILER]Keeper Artemus should have met a more dramatic or at least more meaningful end in Deadly Shadows. He is the keeper that brings Garret into the fold, is the primary liason between him and the Keepers, the one who knows him the best of all( I presume), and saves(kinda) his life once. He's the one Keeper you meet first in all of the games and is the one warning Garret about whatever imminent apocalypse is about to befall the city. He is pretty much the quentissential representation of the keepers throughout most of the series.

However his death occurs offscreen and Garrett doesn't even seem to notice enough to make a final sly remark about Old Man Artemus kicking the bucket. Contrast this with the end of Thief 2 which made a big sappy deal out of Victoria's sacrifice, enough of a deal to get Garrett noticeably pissed for once in the series. At the very least, I think Artemus deserved a better end then disappearing only to become a bag of skin for the Hag in his final appearance.

Just a nitpick at Deadly Shadow's plot.[/SPOILER]

Fallen+Keeper on 20/7/2004 at 10:50

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There is a nice line in TDS:

[SPOILER]
Garrett: I suppose if you were working for Gamall, you would have tried to kill me just now.

Artemus - Tried? I would have succeeded.... [/SPOILER]

Artemus was not only the man that brought Garrett to the Order, but also, he is the man that actually trained him. So even after all those years and despite Garrett's unique ability in the Keeper ways, Artemus is still able to outsneak him :) Or at least he says so and I think so. ;)

ejsmith on 20/7/2004 at 13:28

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God Damn, that was a fairly cool post. Hats off to you, mate!

[edit: Wasn't Daniel "The Eye"? And I thought that the "I would have succeeded" thing was Artimus' way of saying "I'm still better than you, Thief. :) ]