alexfung on 26/2/2001 at 11:23
From RTC, it is evident that Brother Murus did not die a natural death. Who killed him, and why? Also, what did Brother Martello and Renault died of? They are the only two dead bodies that has not disintegrated (nor become Hammer Haunts). What is so strange about them?
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belboz on 26/2/2001 at 12:27
He fell down the stairs.
PCommish on 26/2/2001 at 13:43
That's a good question. Why didn't they become zombies or apparition? I remember reading that Hammerites would die in battle and then turn on the living, but why not these 3? Maybe they knew a secret that the others didn't.
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alexfung on 26/2/2001 at 14:46
Belboz: please either be serious or leave this thread.
PCommish: where did you read about that? Is it a trusted source? What did it base on?
I don't think Hammerite dead in battle is related to Haunts. I heard another source saying Haunts are evil spirits taking over the body of a Hammerite soldier.
In any case, the strange thing is that the reason of his death is kept a secret. Only one (or a few) person knows how he really died.
Sushi on 26/2/2001 at 15:16
>>Poor Murus. After all this years he still fights me; i'm afraid he went mad<< the Eye (free translated from german) I can't remember if this is in the game actually, but I found it as soundfile in the snd.crf file. (Eye07.wav)
I don't know about the other both, but according to that quote, I see two possibilities why Murus was not converted by the Eye:
1.) He was too strong against the Eye in his mind and knew about its power.
2.) The Eye can't convert crazy or mad people 'cause their minds are either too strong or too weak.
Sushi
btw: that voice of the Eye is one of the coolest voices ever in a PC game (together with Walton Simons from Deus Ex)
PCommish on 26/2/2001 at 16:57
I believe that it is written on a parchment somewhere in that level, Alexfung. It was only in regards to that battle against the undead though, not in general.
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Ethne on 26/2/2001 at 18:49
Actually, the way I understood it, Murus died an untimely death before the Zombies overtook the Cathedral, but I don't remember how he died. I do remember finding the scrolls mentioning that they never had a chance to give him a proper burial, and one of his friends (that you had to bury) was rather upset about it. My guess is that they were untouched due to thier purity of heart, and the strength of their convictions. JMHO
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The_Servant on 26/2/2001 at 18:55
Nobody really knows how he died,but we do know the rest.Something went wrong with his burial;and that's why he needed garrett to put his soul to rest.He probably wasn't "converted" because his spirit was to strong.
Oliver Gregory on 26/2/2001 at 19:02
I know most of it but what events actually transpired when the old quarter was destroyed? I know that the city council had workers building the wall and some were lost to the zombies, but how did the events actually start? I ain't sure. And why were the zombies localised within that part of the city? I guess that there were lots in that area undergroung etc. or that they were created. Probably the first suggestion
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WolfTronix on 26/2/2001 at 19:39
Here is the story from what I ahve gathered. First of all the eye is PURE evil. The hammerites brought it to the cathedral. It kept flying up onto the pedestal every morning. The eye caused the bringing of the evil. Zombies arose, evil spirits possessed the bodies of the dead. The hammers were in teh cathedral at the time. They would fight off the undead but everytime one of them was killed he rose again as a haunt. The three strongest souls (murus renault martello) were not transformed upon their death. Instead they struggled against the eyes power however their sloppy or lack of burial prevented them from progressing to the builders paradise. When all hell breaks lose in the old quarter the city is borded up and the keepers seal the cathedral. Along comes Garrett and teh rest is history.
