Mortal Monkey on 17/6/2009 at 19:50
Quote Posted by DDL
It's not like matter expanded into space and met uneven resistance:
SPACE was what was expanding: being "outside" the big bang is a nonsense concept.
A nonsense concept as in (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy) quantum physics?
DDL on 17/6/2009 at 19:59
Vacuum energy is fun!
But what I meant was the concept of space as we know it was expanding, so rather than a big ball of matter hanging in a vacuum, it was a big ball of EVERYTHING (including the actual dimensions of space), with nothing anywhere else: not vacuum, nothing. Dimensionless, physicsless, nothing. Bit difficult to explain clearly, I guess: but the vacuum that quantum foam exists in (or doesn't) is still multi dimensional space, so is still part of the stuff that expanded from the big bang.
....er..or so the theory goes. :thumb:
Koki on 17/6/2009 at 20:31
Quantum physics
is pretty nonsense...
Sulphur on 17/6/2009 at 20:53
Not nonsense, just pretty nearly almost borderline unfathomable -- but still infinitely irresistible. Like women. And could you imagine the planet without them?
Your general outlook is out of date, Kokes. You need to reconcile some amount of insanity with your reality, or you run the risk of going loopy and/or permanently cynical yourself.
It might be too late for you already
Mortal Monkey on 17/6/2009 at 21:09
Quote Posted by Koki
Quantum physics
is pretty nonsense...
I'd have to agree, though it's proving pretty damn useful at predicting things for being such nonsense.
DDL: I thought that was the balloon theory.
dj_ivocha on 17/6/2009 at 22:06
Quote Posted by Vivian
They found that thing in the hubble deep field thats hot enough and in roughly the right place
What do you mean by "the right place"? Since the big bang occurred... well, everywhere, there isn't a "right" place to look for it, surely?
Or do you mean a region in the sky that's not blocked from any galaxies or other concentrations of matter?
Vivian on 17/6/2009 at 22:18
Can't find the picture now, so maybe I made it up. Anyway, 'right place' would be the universal centre, no? Seeing as everything expanded, there had to be a centre of expansion.
june gloom on 17/6/2009 at 22:37
That would be the nostrils of the Great Green Arkleseizure.
dj_ivocha on 17/6/2009 at 22:56
Quote Posted by Vivian
Anyway, 'right place' would be the universal centre, no? Seeing as everything expanded, there had to be a centre of expansion.
That's the thing - the big bang created the universe itself, so there is no "centre" in the universe, where the big bang occurred. It occurred everywhere.
