Raj on 21/9/2009 at 04:11
Hello everyone!
I'm so glad I found this site because I feel like I'm already best friends with everyone here. To say I love the Thief and System Shock games (and the fan games) is truly an understatement!
Anyhow...
Read the FAQ.
Searched the Threads.
Googled in general.
But no answer to the question of whether you can have the original Thief AND Thief Gold installed on the same XP Home computer at the same time.
I ask because I have the original Thief fine but tried to install Thief Gold and I crash to the desktop every time I try to run it.
Do Thief Gold and the Original Thief not get along together?:erg:
Thanks so much!:thumb:
~Raj
PS-- I am also having a lot of trouble trying to get Thief II to install and run on XP and I'm still researching it and trying things... but if anyone knows a great place with step by step instructions for Dummies Like ME... All the more THANKS!
mudi on 21/9/2009 at 04:24
Yes, Thief 1 and Gold will install alongside with no argument. Your crashing may be related to install.cfg... make sure the directories in that file line up with the truth.
What problem are you having with Thief 2?
Raj on 21/9/2009 at 04:45
Thanks mudi! :thumb:
I'll just start my whole installation for Thief Gold over again and try to figure out if it will "magically" work this time... as seems to happen sometimes... I believe there may be computer poltergeists.
Anyhow... since you were kind enough to ask, I've tried all the information I can find to get T2 installed on my XP Home computer, but... no love.:tsktsk:
What I get is the one starting picture of Garret which usually comes up when you first hit the icon and stuff is loading up. This picture stays up for perhaps a minute and then... back to the desktop.:grr:
Should I post all my specs or something... I think the only things that are relevant is that I have a dual core but have turned off hyperthreading and that I have an Nvidia graphics card, and... hmm... well, it's a laptop and that hasn't made a difference in the past.
One more thing... would you recommend that I simply try to install and play the game on Virtual PC running W98?
Thanks so much and thanks for replying so quickly... I was having fun reading the many other interesting threads around here. I was trying to decide if I thought the floors and stairs should creak and the leaves rustle... very high quality of discussion around here! (ooh... no sarcasm intended... I really mean it!):thumb:
Thanks again!:)
~Raj
mudi on 21/9/2009 at 05:27
OK, you've tried everything in the FAQ? (
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75031#install)
Particularly the one that says it may take up to an hour to start the installer. This hasn't happened to me but some say this does in fact work.
As far as a Windows 98 virtual machine, it sadly doesn't work as well as it seems it would, mostly because of really poor 3D support.
Raj on 22/9/2009 at 20:04
Thanks mudi!
I found out about the Virtual PC running W98 the hard way.
But... everyone says (including of course the FAQ) that I should be able to get T2 running in XP fine.
The FAQ (which, by the way, I think is excellently done) was my first stop, having been referred there from Gameboomers. I just don't know where I'm slipping up. I'm just going to try a fresh re-install and be very careful about following the FAQ,
Have you all here ever heard of this "get the Thief II portrait picture then getting dumped back to desktop" problem before?
Thanks!
... and keep thieving!
~Raj
baeuchlein on 22/9/2009 at 20:33
Quote Posted by Raj
Have you all here ever heard of this "get the Thief II portrait picture then getting dumped back to desktop" problem before?
I think so, although most "victims" describe it a bit different.
I believe that if you insert the CD into your drive, the autostart function begins looking for something to start, finds something like PANEL.EXE, starts it... and then something bad happens.
Well, you don't need to use this autostart thing to install
Thief 2. You can as well start SETUP.EXE from the CD and apply the -lgntforce switch to bypass one of a few problems which may crop up when using
Thief 2 with Windows XP. Have you tried that already?
Brian The Dog on 22/9/2009 at 21:20
Just to say, some people confuse the l for a 1, it should be d:\setup.exe -LGNTFORCE (in lower case letters) - "LG" for Looking Glass studios (who made Thief 1 & 2). This assumes d: is the letter of your cd drive you're installing it from, of course.
mudi on 22/9/2009 at 23:54
Try holding down the shift button while you insert the CD (keep the shift held down until after the disc stops spinning up). This will prevent it from autorunning. Then, try running <drive>:\setup.exe -lgntforce as described in the post above. See if that does it for you...
Raj on 1/10/2009 at 19:54
Hey thanks everybody!
First wanted to report that TG is running swimmingly. I am playing on Expert and have gotten to the Bonehoard and have always found this level to be a pain. Ahh... but what exquisite pain!
Anyhow I still can't get T2 to start up. Used all your suggestions and went over the FAQ again today, but I realized that I had been leaving something out in reporting my problem: what I get is actually a crash to the "Windows has encountered an error and needs to close the program... [buttons] send details, don't send."
I think everyone knows the dandy little message I'm talking about.
I think that I should start a new thread so if others encounter my problem they can find it more easily.
Thanks again:thumb:
theBlackman on 1/10/2009 at 20:53
Sorry about your problem, but to answer the original question. I have TDP unpatched, TDP patched, TGOLD, TMA unpatched, TMA patched all working on my system(s).
Just be absolutely certain that you install them in seperate folders with different names.
For example. TDP, TDP 1.14, TGOLD, TMA, Thief 2, etc.
And if you play the FMs be sure to link them (and the proper Dromed) to the correct version.
All 5 versions run with no problem on my system(s). That's XP home, XP PRO, Win98SE (my backup for internet and older games)