Here's a tip. - by aguywhoplaysthief
oudeis on 24/7/2009 at 06:18
Tresspassers will be shot. Survivors will be shot again.
Kolya on 24/7/2009 at 07:13
G.I. Joe, Michelangelo, My Little Pony, Superman and Saddam Hussein reached the sandy hilltop at dawn. Looking down to where there once had been the glowing city lights of Los Angeles G.I. Joe plainly stated: "Looks like we're too late."
The putrid smell of rotting zombie flesh mixed with the brown smoke of a burning gas station nearby.
Superman made a take-off motion then fell down the hill. The rest watched him tumbling down.
"You go get him....Cowabunga." Saddam said to the turtle.
My Little Pony snickered.
Sulphur on 24/7/2009 at 07:18
Where's the human interest you psychopath
nicked on 24/7/2009 at 07:53
Kolya's story would make the greatest desktop background painting of all time. Any artists around?
Angel Dust on 24/7/2009 at 08:56
Quote Posted by Kolya
G.I. Joe, Michelangelo, My Little Pony, Superman and Saddam Hussein reached the sandy hilltop at dawn. Looking down to where there once had been the glowing city lights of Los Angeles G.I. Joe plainly stated: "Looks like we're too late."
The putrid smell of rotting zombie flesh mixed with the brown smoke of a burning gas station nearby.
Superman made a take-off motion then fell down the hill. The rest watched him tumbling down.
"You go get him....Cowabunga." Saddam said to the turtle.
My Little Pony snickered.
Quote Posted by Sulphur
Where's the human interest you psychopath
:laff: Goddam I love this place!
june gloom on 24/7/2009 at 09:00
Quote Posted by oudeis
Dethtoll, you need to stop lashing out at people who aren't attacking you. There is a difference between critique and criticism and so far in this thread you have only been critiqued. If you are at all serious about being a writer you should learn to tell the difference. Also, as a writer, you should be more restrained in your use of various forms of 'fuck' to emphasize your statements if you are trying to be serious or to make an important point. All of us here swear like soldiers, but it is debased language and lends no weight to your arguments.
From what I understand, most 'serious' writing programs frown on genre fiction. I know two people who went through Northwestern University's creative writing program and they were explicitly told no Syfy :p or fantasy works would be accepted. So, as obnoxious as your professor might have been, he was acting in accord with the mainstream.
Ultimately, anything that you/we can say about another's work boils down to one simple statement: "I would have done it differently". With that in mind, I would have used fewer brand-names in your opening sentence and gone into more detail about how dirty, cracked etc the boxes were. The female character could have identified them for us when she noted how much she loved the Turtles and hated the Joes, etc. And so on, and so on, yadda yadda yadda. I make no claims to expertise or talent, I'm just giving you my opinion.
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It has nothing to do with critique. I didn't show nearly enough of the story for critiquing; I showed a simple, short passage, to give an example of what my use of pop culture references entailed. It has everything to do Queue's bullheaded insistence that pop culture references ARE BAD EVIL WRITING NO NO NO. And that's what this stupid bullshit argument was about.
You make good suggestions in the last paragraph but please don't mistake this argument to be one about critique v.s. criticism.
Queue on 24/7/2009 at 12:27
I miss dethtoll.
And all I'm saying (been saying) is to avoid them unless they are necessary, in which case, don't over use them or stick them in for decoration because you're trying to provide some sort of tone/feeling/reference point as the references become tedious to wad through. The Superman comic reference was the only one needed in your example, the others were just clutter.
BTW, I have used cultural references in stories. A story I finished a few weeks ago is about a man who finds a certain important person's cellphone, and that person says something along the line of, "You should be on my Twitter."
R Soul on 24/7/2009 at 12:57
Quote Posted by Queue
"You should be on my Twitter."
Is that a euphemism?
Stitch on 24/7/2009 at 14:38
Quote Posted by dethtoll
It has nothing to do with critique. I didn't show nearly enough of the story for critiquing; I showed a simple, short passage, to give an example of what my use of pop culture references entailed. It has everything to do Queue's bullheaded insistence that pop culture references ARE BAD EVIL WRITING NO NO NO. And that's what this stupid bullshit argument was about.
Except he never actually said that. I am fully aware of the hypocrisy of what I'm about to say, but you'd do well to ease off that trigger a little.
PeeperStorm on 25/7/2009 at 01:10
This thread reminds me of the time my parents got me a sandbox. The first day it was great fun. The next day when I went out to play in it, I found that all the neighborhood cats had shit in it. Probably while discussing creative writing.
