help me please...someone. stuck again. - by Deus_Ex_Girl
Deus_Ex_Girl on 4/6/2002 at 19:35
hi, i'm stuck again in the DE first game. i left hong kong and arrived back to new york and scheduled to meet this dowd person to find out about where the shipment of the virus is to take place...right? my problem is the location of where i'm to meet this dowd guy. where the heck is he. it stated to meet him in front of the burn down osgood and son store near some tunnels close to the nsf warehouse but i can't find n e tunnels. i've disposed of all those unatco soldiers but i've found, after some time of searching for these tunnels, when i go around the corners more soldiers are showing up so i have to stop my search to start killing, or rendering unconsciuos, these guys. please-someone must know where these tunnels r and please, please, please be as specific as possible. ty SO MUCH. :)
ps. also there is this one guy who keeps following me everywhere i go. when i click on him he plays dumb and give me a slight attitude til i pull out a weapon and the jerk runs away but he still comes back following me everywhere. it says he's a thug. i got so worried, that he kept following me, that i rendered him unconscious. lol. was it ok to do that? who is he and should i have done that to him? do i get rid of him
also i hacked smuggler's computer and received this message stating "icarus is looking for jc". who the heck is icarus?
Cyborg on 4/6/2002 at 21:13
Hmm, there are no tunnels to be found. Actually you are supposed to meet Dowd in the ruins of osgood sons. The ruins are left from the hotel enterance, if you are looking the hotels enterance. Then just go left and get into those ruins. Dowd is hiding there.
And about that thug, there is nothing wrong to kill him. Actually, when you talk with Dowd he starts to shoot.
Deiyen on 4/6/2002 at 22:13
After talking to Harley Filbin, he tells you to go to the burnt down Osgood and Sons warehouse. However, after talking to him, someone else appears, that spy that you noticed. He follows you to the warehouse and once you're done talking to Dowd, he starts shooting, sometimes even bringing other troops. So it should be a good thing you knocked him out. To talk to Dowd though, you'll have to actually go in the warehouse, you'll see Dowd standing by a burning barrel in a little alcove.
Knocking out or killing NYPD tends to spawn UNATCO men. If you play stealthily and leave everyone alone, UNATCO troops only spawn toward the end. You'll see what I mean. Icarus you'll find out soon enough. Similar to Daedalus.
Dragonclaw on 5/6/2002 at 13:56
The tunnels mentioned are the ones below Osgood and son. When you first get there to take out the generator, you can either go over the roofs, or you can go through thze tunnels. They are barried later, though.
Deus_Ex_Girl on 5/6/2002 at 17:05
u guys r so sweet to help me out like this. ty so much. :angel:
Deiyen on 5/6/2002 at 17:15
That's what these forums are for! ^^ I suggest don't ask too much though unless you're really, really stuck. Might ruin the game for you.
ICEBreaker on 5/6/2002 at 23:17
The guy who keeps following JC is an MJ12 assassin. Jordan Shea tried to hint to JC that Gunther had been in her bar and had threatened her, so if you talk to her about Dowd, she reports the conversation and hence the appearance of the undercover MJ12 assassin. Joe Greene is an MJ12 spy and if you talk to him about Dowd, the undercover MJ12 assassin will also be alerted.
Icarus' first contact is in Hell's Kitchen and tricks JC with false information about a clear street. Daedalus tries to inform you of the wrong information. This was the first time the two AIs struggle.
This is a bit late, but what the heck:
Inline Image:
http://131.215.159.40/ice/dx/dxnyc_osgood_burnt.jpgFig. 1: Hell's Kitchen > Osgood and Son > Burnt - Dowd's location
Deiyen on 6/6/2002 at 00:48
Heyyyyyyy, ICEBreaker, you brought up a great point. I never thought about Icarus at that point. I always figured Daedalus was just malfunctioning or something. But now that I think about it, you're right. It's probably more likely Icarus influencing Daedalus.
santaClaws on 6/6/2002 at 07:18
IMO it's funny how the posts flood in when the requesting user's name contains the word GIRL :) But maybe I got your psyche all wrong. And I participated, too :thumb:
ICEBreaker on 6/6/2002 at 14:57
Deiyen: Maybe the "ps -al" is just static (a Unix command), while "attach" is the faint voice of Icarus. (?) This is the first time the Icarus AI is heard in the game.
SantaClaws, does this mean we are a bunch of nerds and crowd round any girls?
On a serious note, I make sure I help any member to the fullest. I don't come to this board much so not much chance to help, but I do definitely give the same amount of help regardless of gender. Deiyen is a guy and I got him all those quotes! Took me an hour!!! Ha ha.
