JediKorenchkin on 23/8/2006 at 23:21
I forget, was it mentioned in the manual anywhere?
Vigil on 23/8/2006 at 23:30
Nope.
Kolya on 24/8/2006 at 00:02
It's mentioned in the Wernher von Braun article. :p
Gingerbread Man on 24/8/2006 at 00:09
Hooray for internal consistency.
Hemebond on 24/8/2006 at 06:20
Quick Wiki-related question: Would information on the weapons/psi-powers go on a seperate page? I'm not really sure how things are suppose to be organised. I'm too used to pre-structured websites.
Nameless_Voice on 24/8/2006 at 07:45
Quote Posted by ZylonBane
Unfortunately, that wouldn't be good enough. Anything cited as fact on Wikipedia must be published somewhere else first (No Original Research), and self-publishing doesn't count.
Yes, but someone could always put the exact same information up on a webpage and then it would be from a reputable source...
polytourist97 on 24/8/2006 at 22:01
Quote Posted by Vigil
"It is believed" is a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_weasel_words">weasel-word</a> that does nothing to make the supposition any more credible.
Ah....
Well then, I guess if you were to comply with every stipulation that they had, one could say...
"Many fans/members of the forums dedictated to SS2's now defunct developing studio have postulated that the Von Braun is a reference to the rocket scientist Wernher Von Braun because of...etc."
..and if they
still weren't satisfied and needed to know where, when, why, or whatever, one could supply all of that information (in the forums, whenever the subject is brought up, etc.).
The real question then becomes: is the Wernher Von Braun reference really that integral to the game that it should have so much attention and effort go towards it's promulgation?
...probably not.
Kaldoth on 25/8/2006 at 02:24
Quote Posted by RocketMan
How many notable Von Braun's could there be in history to confuse this ship with anyway? Fame and applicability have got to count for something...you'd think.
But as it's a fictional story that happens in the future, it is concievable (but unlikely) that it is named after a fictional Von Braun that exists solely in the System Shock timeline, and not the historical Von Braun.
Kolya on 25/8/2006 at 04:25
Right, it's a fictional story. But the System Shock universe is finite and well known. And nowhere did the storywriters mention a person named von Braun in it. Still they named a very important object in SS2 - a starship - with what can be clearly identified as a person's name.
The logical conclusion is that it must refer to a person outside the System Shock universe. Considering the fact that NASA's first director was von Braun a mistake isn't ruled out yet but seems highly unlikely. Unlikely enough to leave a trivia entry on a video game page one might think.
A parallel that might indeed be a coincidence is that Trioptimum acted completely irresponsible of the technology at their hands when they pushed the date for the FTL-starship, ignoring unclear and possibly catastrophic consequences. The real von Braun was critisized for having a similar attitude towards his own work during WW2.
Now if I wrote the latter on wikipedia I could see why they wanted backup for it. The name reference is hard to dismiss though.
Vigil on 25/8/2006 at 08:58
Then say it's "highly probable that". There's little point pussying around with "a lot of people think...", and the Wikipedia editors are right on general principle in insisting it's not a proven fact and shouldn't be worded as such.
