Printer's Devil on 20/8/2006 at 02:42
Quote Posted by Paz
You don't really need to use ironic quotation marks when pilots are being subjected to the same wacky security restrictions as passengers (no toothpaste for you!)
That's pilots.
The guys who could crash planes into shit if they felt so inclined.
Still, the steady implosion of the flight industry means our skies might be altogether fresher and cleaner soon. Every cloud, eh?
The quotation marks were quoting, not indicating irony, as I don't believe the precautions were necessarily a bad thing under the circumstances. Sure, the threat may turn out to be a paper tiger, but the airlines didn't know that when the police broke the news. Submitting aircrew to the same restrictions as passengers may have been a PR move to soothe annoyed customers. Who knows? As far as liquid explosives being an unbelieveable threat, remember that gasoline vapour (for instance) is violently explosive in a closed enviroment. Creativity points go to the government for dreaming up the toothpaste+duty free booze+cellphone=superbomb, though.
SD on 20/8/2006 at 02:45
Quote Posted by Printer's Devil
Creativity points go to the government for dreaming up the toothpaste+duty free booze+cellphone=superbomb, though.
They stole that off Batman.
oudeis on 20/8/2006 at 05:47
Quote Posted by Printer's Devil
Creativity points go to the government for dreaming up the toothpaste+duty free booze+cellphone=superbomb, though.
:confused:
SD on 20/8/2006 at 18:14
(
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/5269106.stm) SHEIKHS ON A PLANE
Two British Asian men removed from a plane because they were speaking Arabic. Well done The Powers That Be, you've successfully turned us into a nation of paranoiac racists.
Ulukai on 20/8/2006 at 20:49
Reality check. Given the number of planes that fly in and out of the UK every day, this occuring on one plane hardly makes us a nation of paranoid racists.
It does make excellent material for the tabloids, though.
BEAR on 20/8/2006 at 23:10
I second bob in the fact that it isn't x-files style gov mischief, I think its something worse (I dont know all that much about this incident in itself, so I'm not really making a statement about it)
The problem isn't that someone out there is sitting at a desk planning how to screw everyone over take control of everything. I think the problem is that the collective (and maybe subconscious) greed of some people coupled with the fear of a lot of other people create almost the same circumstances.
Bush may really believe the shit he thinks, so might English politicians, some might even use things without really thinking about it any maybe they are all just a little stupid, but does it really matter? The eventual outcome is the same.
The New Scientist had a article about that, stating that the fear and disruption caused by terrorism is way more costly than the actual loss of life due to it. Like Stronts said, fucking coconuts falling on peoples heads probably kills more people per year than a single terrorist attack.
I'm not really a big conspiracy theorist, I'm usually the one arguing against it, but my skepticism goes both ways, I think alot of people are too trusting and then alot of people are way to fucking suspicious. Just looking at things objectively, people cant keep shit secret. The odds of people being able to pull off these big things and them being totally secret are pretty slim, people hear shit, people talk, and it gets out. Thats why its even worse than that, if someones pulling the strings at least if people find out it can be stopped, what we have is a collective thing that cant be uncovered in a great conspiracy movie style action, it can only be countered by people not being fucking insane and looking at things rationally.
In the end, I think people on both sides of Stronts arguments make pretty valid points, which is the good thing about having such types of people. Cynics and conspiracy theorists are at least looking out for that shit, and as long as you have reasonable people like bob and paz making valid arguments on the other side, no harm done. The real fucked up shit is when you cant talk about it at all, which in alot of places (especially the US) is becoming a reality.
For this incident, maybe it was bad maybe it wasn't. I guess it is hopeful that they found out about it at all, I think std draws a decent comparison with the other incidents, and how it was hyped at the time and then nobody was charged with anything and it gets kind of forgotten when the next big plot is uncovered.
This isnt the article I was looking for, but still interesting (dunno if non-subscribers can read it or not) (
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/mg19125655.400.html)
Starrfall on 21/8/2006 at 02:00
Quote Posted by Strontium Dog
(
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/5269106.stm) SHEIKHS ON A PLANE
Two British Asian men removed from a plane because they were speaking Arabic. Well done The Powers That Be, you've successfully turned us into a nation of paranoiac racists.
Is "chinese whispers" like "telephone"?
Mingan on 21/8/2006 at 02:45
(
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/17/flying_toilet_terror_labs/) El Reg analyses the feasability of binary liquid explosives
It's interesting, and would tend to support Stronts on the point 'it's over-inflated BS'. Of course it only analyses one possible combination, but it'd really be interested to know how many different recipes exist to make binary liquid explosives.
Scots Taffer on 21/8/2006 at 02:52
Stronts, you aren't fighting the good fight here. You're essentially leaping to the polar opposite conclusions that people who read the Daily Mail are. One incident does not a racist nation make, also one muslim raping a white woman does not a raping race make.
Rug Burn Junky on 21/8/2006 at 03:12
Quote Posted by Scots_Taffer
one muslim raping a white woman does not a raping race make.
I thought we all agreed that we weren't going to talk about Strontz's former fiance and her trip to Turkey any more?
