Aerothorn on 3/7/2009 at 22:21
Er...not sure I can. Will google it, but unlike the rear fan the front fan is really "built into" the case (Raidmax Smilodon) and is not designed to be removed or modified in any way. Would probably have to do some cutting. It may be better to just remove the CPU heatsink and turn it around (as I believe it can face both ways), though that means re-applying thermal gel and such, which is a pretty obnoxious activity.
Edit: okay, it is theoretically doable, but I have to take the front of the case off and remove the hard drive enclosures. Does this need to be done ASAP, or is the "opposite fan directions" think just inefficient but not actually dangerous?
bikerdude on 4/7/2009 at 13:47
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Edit: okay, it is theoretically doable, but I have to take the front of the case off and remove the hard drive enclosures. Does this need to be done ASAP, or is the "opposite fan directions" think just inefficient but not actually dangerous?
I would do it sooner rather than later.
Aerothorn on 4/7/2009 at 18:54
Will do.
The good thing about this increasingly complex situation is that the default setup apparently was no good: it had both fans blowing forward. Yet the PSU (apparently like almost all modern PSUs) blows air out the back, and being right next to a fan blowing air in would (according to (
http://www.heatsink-guide.com/content.php?content=case.shtml) this guide) create an air flow short circuit. I'm guessing this case was designed back when PSUs mostly blew air into the case and the design hasn't been changed since.
bikerdude on 4/7/2009 at 19:08
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I'm guessing this case was designed back when PSUs mostly blew air into the case and the design hasn't been changed since.
In 14yrs I have never seen a PSU blow air into a case, its always been out of the case. And referring to your link, my case is setup as follows -
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http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7249/98400572.jpgAerothorn on 4/7/2009 at 20:29
Five fans? Impressive.
Fortunately I'm just using a single hard drive so I don't need to use the HDD fan.
bikerdude on 4/7/2009 at 21:21
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Five fans? Impressive.
I actually have 8 in total
Front(120mm), rear(120mm), top(200mm), side(120mm), cpu(120mm), hdd(60mm), mem(60mm) and finally the one in the psu(120mm) - this might seem like overkill but the end result is dont have any major hot spots anywhere inside the case.
The 120mm's are all Xilence Redwing fans, the 200mm+60mm's are Antecs. All of which which collectively shift 235cfm of air through the case while in total producing less than 35dba of noise. Just to give you a perspective, a few days ago when it was 30c outside it was 31c inside and the temps at idle were Case-33, Cpu-35, Gfx-60c, Mobo-47 and right now the temps in my room are 27, Case-30, Cpu-30, Gfx-54, Mobo-41.
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Aerothorn on 13/2/2010 at 16:38
So bad news: I bought a PCI Express sound card, and it ends up the only place it would fit was directly in front of the graphics card's fan. It's a low profile card so it doesn't completely block it, but it can't be doing any good. I've caught my card reaching 85 degrees (during peak action in Mass Effect 2) and I just got a mysterious blue-screen crash while playing Borderlands. I really really really don't want to get rid of my sound card (particularly given its cost) but obviously don't want to burn out the GPU. What's the safest max temp for these things?
bikerdude on 13/2/2010 at 17:59
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I've caught my card reaching 85 degrees (during peak action in Mass Effect 2) What's the safest max temp for these things?
the GTS250 should is able to handle temps upto 105c ((
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gts_250_us.html)) are you overclocking the card.? Can you do a pic of the layout.. so I can see how/where your fans are and the placements of pci card etc..
Aerothorn on 14/2/2010 at 19:04
Sounds great, then. I'm not great with the diagrams, though I can provide a pic if necessary later. Basically I have one lower 120mm fan blowing in (in the front) and one upper 120mm fan blowing out the rear. I have a fancy heatsink on the CPU with a fan that blows into the rear 120mm fan; so far CPU has always run very cool. My third fan is one attached from the side of the computer that blows directly on to the graphics card, which itself is equipped with a semi-nice heatsink (picture (
http://www.pureoverclock.com/images/review/video_cards/asus_gts250dk/asus_gts250dk_forums.jpg) here) which blows downward onto the super-close sound card.
Anyway, while this raises temps by a few degrees I don't really care as long as it's safe - nothing is overclocked and while I could easilly overclock the CPU based on how cool it's running, I'd just as soon keep it within default parameters for now - the computer is as fast as I need it to be and I don't want to void the warranty before it runs out.
P.S. Bonus pointless question: On the linked NVIDIA site it shows a picture of a GTS 250. But NVIDIA doesn't actually manufacturer the entire cards, do they? So what is that a picture of? A prototype?
bikerdude on 14/2/2010 at 21:01
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Sounds great, then. I'm not great with the diagrams, though I can provide a pic if necessary later.
P.S. Bonus pointless question: On the linked NVIDIA site it shows a picture of a GTS 250. But NVIDIA doesn't actually manufacturer the entire cards, do they? So what is that a picture of? A prototype?
Yeah, I really need to see a couple of pics of the inside of your case..
nVidia design a 'reference card and the manufacture, for example Asus can either choose to use that design or make one of their own.
