Vae on 22/3/2010 at 10:52
Quote Posted by Kuuso
So your real problem is that your judges aren't objective.
Not exactly.
The right leaning judges tend to interpret the constitution in a stricter non-ideological objective manner (unless they were far-right, which none of them are), and the left leaning judges seem to be influenced by a "progressive" ideology that views the constitution in a "looser" manner. So actually, the liberal judges are more apt to be less objective or strict when it comes to the constitution.
Master Villain on 22/3/2010 at 11:01
Quote Posted by Nicker
Congratulations USA! Humanity welcomes you all to the 20th Century.
I fixed that for you.
SD on 22/3/2010 at 11:10
Quote Posted by Vae
If ObamaCare is not repealed, it will likely cause a "nullification crisis", because of the States resisting the Federal mandate. As of right now, 37 States have announced that they will file legislation to reject the health care mandate, as it would be unconstitutional and violate state sovereignty. This of course will then lead to the US Supreme Court for a judgment on the mandates' constitutional validity. With 5 right leaning and 4 left leaning judges, the ruling will likely be that the States have the right to reject the mandate, thereby undoing ObamaCare.
Haha, no. This is it. Game over for the Republicunts. Suck it down.
Of course, the ultimate irony is that this national health plan is broadly the same as the plan Mitt Romney brought in in Massachusetts. In a saner world, Republicans would have come to some kind of compromise on this bill. Instead, the fact that they are now dominated by swivel-eyed fascist partisan fools meant that they gambled the house on opposing it outright. LOSERS.
Vae on 22/3/2010 at 11:35
Quote Posted by Namdrol
citation needed
I had thought this to be self-evident, considering the unprecedented invention and innovation that has increased the quality of life (qualified by technological advancement) for others around the world...and the US also has been incredibly generous with its' prosperity in the form of aid and support for humanity as a whole. Need I really list examples to prove this? I mean we wouldn't even be having this conversation right now if it wasn't for the Internet wonder that was invented in the US. This one invention alone has had enormous value to much of the world.
The US isn't perfect and of course other countries have earned praise for their contributions as well...and for perspective that comment was a response to "Congratulations USA! Humanity welcomes you all to the 21st Century"...not a toot your horn arrogant response.
Vae on 22/3/2010 at 11:52
Quote Posted by SD
Haha, no. This is it. Game over for the Republicunts. Suck it down.
You only say this because you wish it were true. It is only your ignorance and ideology that blinds you to a possibility that you may not like. (
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/virginia-first-state-to-pass-health-care-freedom-act-38-states-lining-up-against-obamacare-86418607.html) 38 States Lining Up Against ObamaCare
For perspective, there is a chance that the States resistance will fail, and as a result government intrusion will prevail.
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Of course, the ultimate irony is that this national health plan is broadly the same as the plan Mitt Romney brought in in Massachusetts. In a saner world, Republicans would have come to some kind of compromise on this bill. Instead, the fact that they are now dominated by swivel-eyed fascist partisan fools meant that they gambled the house on opposing it outright. LOSERS.
I am a non-partisan independent, and not a republican or democrat.
Most Americans are against this bill, generally speaking this would include most republicans and independents. Almost all of the support for this bill comes from liberal democrats. The far-left progressives actually think that this bill isn't socialized enough, which is scary.
Muzman on 22/3/2010 at 12:18
Doesn't sound socialised at all at the moment. Maybe when the other stuff kicks in down the road. If it mostly rearranges the regulations on insurance companies and employers more than anything like some are saying, not even worth the tag.
"socialism" (or, as we like to call it, "Government Services") is great anyway. High time y'all gave it a try.
Vae on 22/3/2010 at 12:34
It would be a form of quasi-socialism, if implemented.
At face value, all entitlements seem good at the personal level. It is only when one looks deeper into the system mechanics of a civilization that one realizes the economic crippling affect of socialism.
frozenman on 22/3/2010 at 12:37
I don't have health insurance yet I don't think the bill worked :(
Master Villain on 22/3/2010 at 12:43
Quote Posted by Vae
Most Americans are against this bill, generally speaking this would include most republicans and independents.
Have you got some proof from a source in no way connected to insurance companies, Republican politicians, or their supporters?
CCCToad on 22/3/2010 at 13:05
There's been a number of polls taken by the major opinion agencies, and the results are frequently used to mis-represent. A strong majority support healthcare reform, but when asked about the bill in question the opinions are overwhelmingly negative.
Also, I resent SD's remark about jewish lizards. I am an italian jew by descent and do not resemble a lizard. Finally, I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans wanted this bill to pass for political reasons: they can put up a good show of opposing a widely unpopular bill, then allow the Democrats to take the fall when it passes.
