Jason Moyer on 30/11/2016 at 04:01
Quote Posted by froghawk
There are no Bethesda games with good mechanics, though. At least Morrowind is creative.
I think their games have gotten significantly better since they started implementing basic immersive sim stuff. It's still not amazing, but playing a Thief/Assassin in Oblivion onwards is soooooo much better than in their earlier games. As an added bonus, you can block an NPC's line of sight by putting a bucket on their head now.
Pyrian on 30/11/2016 at 06:48
Based on henke's top-30 suggestion, I haven't played:
Grand Theft Anything
Baldur's Gate II
The Elder Scrolls Anything
Mass Effect 2 (I played the first one, though)
Quake (I own it on Steam)
Grim Fandango
Diablo
The Witcher III (it's on my wishlist)
Company of Heroes
Unreal Tournament 2004
Minecraft
World of Warcraft
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (completed CoD 1 and played a little of 2, hit the first escort mission and never played Call of Duty again, lol)
Warcraft III (played Warcraft I, which is terrible, and StarCraft 1&2, which aren't terrible)
So... I've played less than half.
Jason Moyer on 30/11/2016 at 07:34
Going by Henke's suggestion I haven't played:
GTA V
The Witcher 3
UT 2K4
Starcraft II
Homeworld
WoW
Warcraft III
The Sims
Additionally, I've played GTA VC, Diablo, CoH, and GTA SA but not to completion.
Looking at the lists for the consoles I own, there's a whole hell of a lot of stuff I haven't played or I own and haven't played beyond a few minutes.
Going by the opposite list ((
http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/pc/filtered?sort=asc) lowest rated PC games of all time) the worst game I've owned/played is #62, SuperPower.
Thirith on 30/11/2016 at 08:34
Of that Top 30 list, I've not played Company of Heroes or The Sims (though I have played The Sims 2). Other than that, I've just played the demos or trial version of Starcraft II, Homeworld and World of Warcraft. What's missing from such lists, though, is the oddities that nevertheless are high points of the medium.
Malf on 30/11/2016 at 09:54
Of the top 30, the only game I haven't played is Diablo, and even there, I played the demo. And I have played Diablo 2 & 3 and all of their expansions. Contentiously, I'd say Diablo 3's the best of the lot, and certainly the one that engaged me the most.
Matthew on 30/11/2016 at 10:55
Quote Posted by Jason Moyer
I tried to replay Morrowind about a year or so ago, and I can't say it held up at all. It had some nice lore and levitation and OMG MUSHROOMS (in one small area) but the game mechanics are mostly terrible (especially the conversational ones), the re-use of assets is almost as bad as Oblivion, areas are either super tiny or copy/pasted mazes, and...eh. I would love to see Bethesda remake it note-for-note in a modern engine though, if they could keep the core skill system but add all of the simulated stuff their newer games have.
You might want to keep an eye on (
https://tesrenewal.com/) Skywind then.
Based on the Metacritic list, of the top 30 games I haven't played:
GTA V
Mass Effect 2
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty (I have it sitting around somewhere, though)
The Sims (played plenty of 2 and some of 3 and 4, though)
I'm not sure about Warcraft III and CoD 4 - I may have played them for a bit at my cousin's house, but never owned them.
The worst that I own is, I think, either Stronghold Crusader: Extreme at number 132 or Warhammer 40,000: Fire Warrior at 152.
Pyrian on 30/11/2016 at 16:06
My first worst is 135, Deus Ex:The Fall. Mind you, I played the PC port, so maybe the version I played wasn't so bad. I certainly didn't think so. ...Heh, there's Solarix at 166...
Jason Moyer on 30/11/2016 at 16:28
The Fall is apparently the worst game I've played to completion. I would have probably given that award to Machine For Pigs or Dear Esther.
Malleus on 30/11/2016 at 16:51
Quote Posted by Jason Moyer
The writing/combat/sneaking/etc aren't spectacular but they're not bad enough to impede the sheer joy of wondering what's over the next hill.
That was pretty much my experience with Fallout 3, which I enjoyed greatly. Just wandering in the Wasteland, finding bits and pieces of lore, remnants of the past, while killing mutants, bandits and whatever. I even enjoyed exploring the metro, which was almost completely made of prefab tunnel pieces. If I ever get around playing Skyrim, it will be that way, for that reason, probably.
Anyway, I checked this supposedly worst games list, and the first I played there was number 204: Tomb Raider The Angel Of Darkness, and fuck everyone, because I loved that. Pretty much my favorite of the franchise. :) As for the best game list, I'm out right at number 2 with GTA V. I think GTA3 was the last I played, and I stopped caring about it afterwards. Saint's Row 3 was fun though.
Nameless Voice on 30/11/2016 at 17:35
The supposedly worst game I've played from that list is that Steam port of The Chaos Engine at #71. (Why is this down here?)
Then I saw that Bioshock is supposedly the fifth best game ever and lost any shred of belief in the validity of the list.
