downwinder on 19/10/2016 at 20:02
tracing the courier,due to changing paths,also time it takes,bad luck can happen also at end you have to do a run for your life part,fall to far behind mission over,get to close and be seen mission over
Sanctus Germanus on 19/10/2016 at 23:35
So I suppose the perfect thieving would be not only first-class ghosting, but also operating like the real Garrett would, with his calculated steps, his head movements, his aim, his thoughts, and of course everything done within a single shot, no saves, and a sole misstep would be enough to restart the mission. It'd be the Mamma-jamma mode.
klatremus on 20/10/2016 at 01:21
Perfect Thief is achieved if abiding by the official Ghost rules while also getting all the loot. No saves is Ironman.
Sanctus Germanus on 20/10/2016 at 03:15
But the other points? How many times did you run when the real Garrett would walk or creep? How many times did your marksmanship fail when the thief would readily hit the mark? Or how about staring at Cutty or Raoul as if you were listening to them (besides other body language hints)? When such fixation arrives, then it is Mamma-jamma mode.
klatremus on 20/10/2016 at 03:47
Not sure what you're getting at here. To use your logic, the "real Garrett" you speak of doesn't exist; he's a character in a video game, played by a human. So in essence the player is Garrett, and therefore whatever the player does, Garrett does. If I miss the mark, Garrett does.
Let's get the discussion back on point here. I thought since you asked the initial question you were interested in hearing the community's opinion.
Sanctus Germanus on 20/10/2016 at 05:16
Alright guys, I was just making fun of those "mode" definitions. I'm starting to realize that everyone takes these threads more seriously than I. But, yeah, I'm actually interested in the community's opinion, and I read and appreciate every reply. Sorry if sometimes I sound too impertinent.
Platinumoxicity on 20/10/2016 at 06:53
For ghosting, these are my picks:
Thief Gold:
1. Undercover (Impossible)
2. Escape (Probably Impossible)
3. The Haunted Cathedral (Astronomically improbable)
Thief 2:
1: Life of The Party (Taxing)
2: First City Bank and Trust (Challenging)
3. Masks (Fun)
T2X:
1. Into the fray (Infuriatingly unpredictable)
2. Down among dead men (Frustrating)
3. The Grand Hotel (Taxing)
Quote Posted by Abysmal
since it's a loose definition (Dishonored allows knockouts)
"No detections or physical contact" is not really a loose definition. Dishonored and Deus Ex are just misusing a term. For them it means something else because it's basically a Thief-specific term.
klatremus on 21/10/2016 at 15:40
No harm done Sanctus. Like you said I probably took the comments too seriously.
Platinumtoxicity: If you do all you can before taking the talisman, Undercover is actually quite easy, bar one piece of loot.
User 205 on 22/10/2016 at 12:03
Soulforge is definiteley the hardest, to this day I haven´t gotten through the turret room.
Platinumoxicity on 22/10/2016 at 12:43
Quote Posted by klatremus
Platinumtoxicity: If you do all you can before taking the talisman, Undercover is actually quite easy, bar one piece of loot.
I think staying undetected is the #1 rule, and it's nearly impossible to escape unseen after the alarm starts. That's why the level is so hard. Escape and Haunted Catheral are the same. There are so many patrols that are difficult or impossible to avoid entirely.
Maybe I should have included Bonehoard as well, since you need to use fire arrows and alert zombies to get the Soul.
