Starrfall on 24/6/2010 at 01:27
This thread is getting meta as fuck
(shitballs, should have taken it over the top by ranting about how I hate you all :mad:)
Nicker on 24/6/2010 at 02:31
Yeah yeah, the pedo thing is wretched excess and yeah yeah yeah, parents should grow some... but come on, McDonalds is a bit of a cancer on the western psyche. I mean, I never eat there, I despise their marketing, I watch almost no television but I can quote, note for note, every one of their slogans since 1980. That is the very definition if insidious and predatory.
McD's has created a generation of adult consumers and is playing off them to meta-market to their kids (and vice versa). It's not a tinfoil beanie level of conspiracy (although the changes made to the "special sauce", introduced following the mass witnessing of UFO's over Mexico City in 1997, seemed a little too coincidental...) it is true that McD's engages in a very sophisticated, a very well researched, very very expensive and a very extensively planned strategy of marketing, which leaves no young mind un-massaged. As bends the branch, so grows the tree.
And Ronald is gay.
fett on 24/6/2010 at 02:35
I think my 8 year old has eaten at McDonald's maybe a total of 10 times in his life. Anyone with half a brain knows that shit is not food, and it's purposely marketed to kids whose parents have not only never learned to say no, but are fucking idiots for not educating their kids about what they put into their bodies. McDonalds and Wal-Mart have been an incredible teaching tool for me - I now have an eight year old who pretty fully understands the concepts of group-think, convenience vs. substance, and demographic targeting. Now he points shit out to me, like, "Hey Dad - see what they're doing there? Do they think I'm STUPID?" :laff:
EDIT: Also, what Nicker said. I'm not for putting McD's out of business, but I think it's in general a bad idea to use cartoon characters to sell stuff to kids that's going to shorten their life span by 10-15 years. We don't allow cigarette companies to do it - and I think that's probably a better comparison than pedophilia.
Tocky on 24/6/2010 at 05:34
Bah. Why is "everything in moderation" such a hard concept to grasp? An occasional toy in a kids meal aint gonna kill anybody. Unless you throw it really hard.
Muzman on 24/6/2010 at 07:09
I was going to get all mad at the outrage, then at the hysteria about the outrage, then at the media marketing the hysteria about the marketing to get the outrage hits, then at the FAT PEOPLE! Then I saw the five editor's picks articles
Quote:
# Chicago Blackhawks Ice Crew Girls
# Top 10 Smartest And Dumbest Dog Breeds
# Celebrities On The Spot: Real Or Fake?
# 10 Free Places To Go In Chicago
# Best Of Taste Of Chicago
..and I thought fuck it.
Koki on 24/6/2010 at 12:04
Everything was better in the sixties.
nicked on 24/6/2010 at 12:21
Quote:
one child psychiatrist says these marketers are similar to pedophiles.
So paedos like fat kids? :p
Queue on 24/6/2010 at 12:51
Ronald is not gay. Believe me, I've tried.
I remember when I was a kid, McD's was an occasional treat not a daily diet--it was like going to Red Lobster. But, back then, the food was honestly different. And so was the company, though the nascency of their advertising and market growth should have been an indicator of what the fast food industry would become: (
http://www.mcspotlight.org/case/pretrial/factsheet.html) a beast bent of reaping profit via any means possible.
All those jingles. All the characters. The fast food war! Companies came, and companies went, gimmick driven profiteers all trying to get in on the act just to get a piece of the action. Anyone else remember Burger Queen?
The food didn't matter, it was the marketing. The foodstuff itself became nothing more than a product, manipulated much like tobacco to keep people craving it.
The end result for me... My kids have
never eaten at McDonalds-nor any other fast food chain. Apart from not finding the notion of sitting down to a wholesome meal of deep fried and processed salt with the young urbanites and utter white trash unappealing, I cannot wrap head around the idea of jamming a "(
http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives/2008/09/12-year-old-mcdonalds-hamburger-still-looking-good.html) product" down their necks and washing it down with fizzy, high-fructose corn syrup [because I'm a) too lazy to cook, b) too "busy" to cook {see reference a}, or c) that I have this absurd belief in my head that's it's too expensive to cook] instead of providing them with real, nutrient ladened food.
It's unfathomable what we do to ourselves and our children. The simple act of feeding them properly has become a burden that we are unwilling to meet. You had the kids (could have pulled out, or could have later taken a few swift kicks to the gut...but noooo....) it's your responsibility to raise them as well as humanly possible . It's very, very important that you do so to avoid sending civilization off into a spin of decadence and squalor
FUCK!! I HATE SEEING THESE DREDGES OF SOCIETY RETARDING THEIR KIDS WITH CALORIES AND FAT! You brainwashed fuckers. I'd rather see the little bastards grow up addicted to bestial porn and heroin and dying of AIDS then jamming their red and puffy little bodies full of this "goodness".
SQUALOR!
kabatta on 24/6/2010 at 13:13
Queue, your arguement made me laugh out loud. But it's pretty much true. Even when I was a kid mecdonnalds was like a 5 stars restaurant because it was a brand out there created especially for children. And I am against eating out today. It seems like a very uninspired idea to go and eat out overpriced meals containing god knows what rather than making your own tasty customized ones. That still doesn't explain the mediatic frenzy blaming other causes for the fact that some children are too fat for their own sake. I still blame the parents. :p
Brian T on 24/6/2010 at 13:37
Why all the angst? The solution is quite clear in my opinion;
1)Eat happy meals at McDonalds
2)Go jogging.
3)Repeat.
That's my take on the issue.
