Hack Game Engine To Make Walls Climbable?

snobel on 14/7/2022 at 11:49

Here's a (https://ln5.sync.com/dl/89c95dc30/4pwcda9c-cxjqi5r8-jrkq3xyk-eg26t398) matlib override file, which makes the material used inside the chimney climbable. :) Must be copied into Content\T3\Matlib\DynamicallyLoaded in the game install. Better remove it when you're done...

About the LootHunter: If you've been playing with the T3 Gold mod enabled then make sure to select that option, not "original game" when installing.
The key to activate the console depends on the keyboard layout, for me it's the one to the right of L, sometimes it's the one above Tab. Good point about mentioning it in the readme, I'll make a note in case I ever get around to updating it.

Pat1991 on 14/7/2022 at 17:50

Hey, seems I cannot access the game files on the Cybercafe PC. I got Loothunter to work though, only the dialogue box won't open.

"CTRL" and ' it is, correct? No box for commands opening here I am afraid.

Pat1991 on 15/7/2022 at 16:17

Hey,

I got it to work! Pretty interesting what I found out!

1. The hatch can, in fact, be opened. If the wall to the left of the cradle grounds was actually climbable, you would be able to use it as an alternative entrance. It opens to the roof which can actually be walked on. Pretty cool!

2. The inner cradle is, in fact, not part of what you can see from the outside at all, but opens to a totally different part of the map. The cradle is much wider and larger than it appears on the outside.

3. The staff tower has the infamous exit through the window at the top. This leads to a totally enclaved part of the "outside cradle" though which, in fact, does not even have an exit.

So after the level is completed, Garrett is basically doomed to starve outside of the cradle.

fortuni on 16/7/2022 at 07:32

Well done, Loothunter is a fun bit of kit once yo have got it working, along with FLY + LAND there are other commands you can input using the console, sadly it would appear I no longer have the complete console commands on my comp, only have a printed out copy, maybe Snobel has got the commands, but IIRC they are hidden somewhere in your T3 folder, the document title is Thief 3 User Menu Configuration File.

GHOST
GOD PLAYER ON/OFF
ALL WEAPONS
ENABLE ALL UPGADES
ENABLE CLIMBING
ENABLE LOCKPICKING
ENABLE BLACKJACK UPGRADE
ENABLE KEEPER UPGRADE
ENABLE PAGAN UPGRADE
ENBLE HAMMER UPGRADE
ALL AI'S BLIND
ALL AI'S DEAF
ALL AI'S DEAF, DUMB, BLIND

As well as numerous diagnostic tools, teleport ability, light, sound, wireframe mode etc

Pat1991 on 16/7/2022 at 13:50

Anyone has an idea on how to get the shortcut to start it to another folder? On the computer I am currently on I cannot access the desktop, but managed to extract the game to a different directory. I do not know how to launch the thing now.

If I manage to get it running on Thief 3 with Gold patch, a few interesting videos might be to come.

fortuni on 16/7/2022 at 15:01

The installer places the loothunter on your desktop, but you can also launch it via

C:/Games/T3LootHunter/System/T3.exe

If you can't access you desktop and you want to re-run the program, make sure you keep the Snobel's (https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146314&highlight=Loothunter) LH installer somewhere safe, each time you run it, it uninstalls all previous installations (both LH and the exe)

PS. Doubt if you can extract LH to a different folder unless you know how to break into the .exe and edit it's files as it's that that places the program on your desktop.

Pat1991 on 17/7/2022 at 09:18

It is certainly possible to simply install it to another folder however. I will see if I can get it to work.

fortuni on 17/7/2022 at 10:16

The console commands are found in the Editor Pack in the T3menu.ini (Thanks Snobel)

Code:

// Thief 3 User Menu Configuration File

// "//" comments are acceptable; "/*" - "*/" comments are not.

// To add a submenu:

// [Submenu string text]
// {
// // submenu contents go here
// }

// To add a menu item that executes a console command:

// <menu text string,console command text>

// To add a "double menu item":

// <menu text 1,console command 1;menu text 2,console command 2>

[T3 Debug Menu]
{
[CitySection]
{
<'Day 1', setint sta_gameday 0>
<'Day 2', setint sta_gameday 1>
<'Day 3', setint sta_gameday 2>
<'Day 4', setint sta_gameday 3>
<'Day 5', setint sta_gameday 4>
<'Day 6', setint sta_gameday 5>
<'Day 7', setint sta_gameday 6>
<'Day 8', setint sta_gameday 7>
<'Day 9', setint sta_gameday 8>
<'Load City', citysection nextday>
}
[Video]
{
<'VSYNC ON', VSYNC ON>
<'VSYNC OFF', VSYNC OFF>
[Colors...]
{
<Increment Brightness,BRIGHTNESS +>
<Decrement Brightness,BRIGHTNESS ->
<Increment Contrast,CONTRAST +>
<Decrement Contrast,CONTRAST ->
<Increment Gamma,GAMMA +>
<Decrement Gamma,GAMMA ->
}
[Gamma]
{
<Gamma 0.5,gamma 0.5>
<Gamma 0.6,gamma 0.6>
<Gamma 0.7,gamma 0.7>
<Gamma 0.8,gamma 0.8>
<Gamma 0.9,gamma 0.9>
<Gamma 1.0,gamma 1.0>
<Gamma 1.1,gamma 1.1>
<Gamma 1.2,gamma 1.2>
<Gamma 1.3,gamma 1.3>
<Gamma 1.4,gamma 1.4>
<Gamma 1.5,gamma 1.5>
}
[Contrast]
{
<Contrast 0.5,Contrast 0.5>
<Contrast 0.6,Contrast 0.6>
<Contrast 0.7,Contrast 0.7>
<Contrast 0.8,Contrast 0.8>
<Contrast 0.9,Contrast 0.9>
<Contrast 1.0,Contrast 1.0>
<Contrast 1.1,Contrast 1.1>
<Contrast 1.2,Contrast 1.2>
<Contrast 1.3,Contrast 1.3>
<Contrast 1.4,Contrast 1.4>
<Contrast 1.5,Contrast 1.5>
}
[Brightness]
{
<brightness 0.5,brightness 0.5>
<brightness 0.6,brightness 0.6>
<brightness 0.7,brightness 0.7>
<brightness 0.8,brightness 0.8>
<brightness 0.9,brightness 0.9>
<brightness 1.0,brightness 1.0>
<brightness 1.1,brightness 1.1>
<brightness 1.2,brightness 1.2>
<brightness 1.3,brightness 1.3>
<brightness 1.4,brightness 1.4>
<brightness 1.5,brightness 1.5>
}
}
[Game Diagnostics]
{
<'STAT POSITION', STAT POSITION>
<'TELEPORT PLAYER START', TELEPORT PLAYER START>
<'OBJECTINFO', OBJECTINFO>
<Turn on damage collision info, COLLISION DAMAGE INFO ON>
<Turn off damage collision info, COLLISION DAMAGE INFO OFF>
<'SHOW_TAGS ON', SHOW_TAGS ON>
<'SHOW_TAGS OFF', SHOW_TAGS Off>
}
[General Cheats...]
{
[Player Movement Mode...]
{
<Fly,T3FLY>
<Ghost,T3GHOST>
<Walk,T3WALK>
}
[Objectives...]
{
<Inn Objectives Macro, EXEC inn.txt>
<Castle Objectives Macro, EXEC castle.txt>
<Hammer Intro Objectives Macro, EXEC hammerintro.txt>
<Pagan Intro Objectives Macro, EXEC paganintro.txt>
<Dungeon Objectives Macro, EXEC dungeon.txt>
<Seaside Mansion Objectives Macro, EXEC seasidemansion.txt>
<Clocktower Objectives Macro, EXEC clocktower.txt>
<Keeper Compound Objectives Macro, EXEC keepercompound.txt>
<Haunted House Objectives Macro, EXEC hauntedhouse.txt>
<Museum Objectives Macro, EXEC museum.txt>
}
[Camera Settings...]
{
<Toggle 3rd Person,camera switch>
[Camera Distance...]
{
<Super Close, camera set distance 3>
<Close, camera set distance 5>
<Normal, camera set distance 8>
<Long Shot, camera set distance 12>
<Really Far, camera set distance 20>
<Way Too Far, camera set distance 35>
}
[Camera Stiffness...]
{
<100%, camera set stiffness 1.0>
<90%, camera set stiffness 0.90>
<80%, camera set stiffness 0.80>
<70%, camera set stiffness 0.70>
<50%, camera set stiffness 0.50>
<30%, camera set stiffness 0.30>
}
[Camera Anchor Offset...]
{
<No Offset, camera set anchoroffset none>
<Actor Height 100%, camera set anchoroffset actorheight, 1>
<Actor Height 80%, camera set anchoroffset actorheight, 0.80>
<Actor Height 60%, camera set anchoroffset actorheight, 0.60>
<Actor Height 40%, camera set anchoroffset actorheight, 0.40>
<Actor Height 20%, camera set anchoroffset actorheight, 0.20>
<Actor Height 0%, camera set anchoroffset actorheight, 0>
}
}
[Invulnerability...]
{
<'GOD OFF',GOD OFF>
<'GOD PLAYER',GOD PLAYER>
<'GOD HALF',GOD HALF>
<'GOD AIS',GOD AIS>
<'GOD ALL',GOD ALL>
}
[Player Inventory]
{
<'ALL WEAPONS', ALL WEAPONS>
}
[Player Health...]
{
<'HURTME 1',HURTME 1>
<'HURTME 8',HURTME 8>
<'HURTME 16',HURTME 16>
<'HEALME 1',HEALME 1>
<'HEALME 8',HEALME 8>
<Use Glyph 1,USEGLYPH 1>
<Use Glyph 8,USEGLYPH 8>
<Heal Glyph 1,RECHARGEGLYPH 1>
<Heal Glyph 8,RECHARGEGLYPH 8>
}
[Player Upgrades...]
{
<'ENABLE ALL UPGRADES', ENABLE ALL UPGRADES>
<'ENABLE CLIMBING', ENABLE CLIMBING>
<'ENABLE LOCKPICKING', ENABLE LOCKPICKING>
<'ENABLE BLACKJACK UPGRADE', ENABLE BLACKJACKUPGRADE>
<'ENABLE KEEPER UPGRADE', ENABLE KEEPERUPGRADE>
<'ENABLE PAGAN UPGRADE', ENABLE PAGANUPGRADE>
<'ENABLE HAMMER UPGRADE', ENABLE HAMMERUPGRADE>
}
[SimTime...]
{
[Speed...]
{
<Full Speed, Simtime Scale 1.0>
<Double Speed, Simtime Scale 2.0>
<Half Speed, Simtime Scale 0.5>
<Quarter Speed, Simtime Scale 0.25>
<Tenth Speed, Simtime Scale 0.1>
}
<Step a Tenth of a Second, Simtime Step 0.1>
<Step a Half Second, Simtime Step 0.5>
<Step a Full Second, Simtime Step 1>
<Pause, Simtime Pause>
<UnPause, Simtime UnPause>
}
[T3 Game Day]
{
<Display Game Day, globaldiag filter=sta_gameday>
<Advance Game Day, CitySection NextDay>
}
}

[Global Data Diagnostics...]
{
<Toggle Diagnostics,GLOBALDIAG>
<Filter Objectives (OBJ_*),GLOBALDIAG FILTER=OBJ_*>
<Filter Difficulty (DIF_*),GLOBALDIAG FILTER=DIF_*>
<Filter Statistics (STA_*),GLOBALDIAG FILTER=STA_*>
<No Filter,GLOBALDIAG FILTER=>
[DEBUGFLAGS...]
{
<'DEBUGFLAGS', DEBUGFLAGS>
<'DEBUGFLAGS AUL_', DEBUGFLAGS AUL_>
<'DEBUGFLAGS CAS_', DEBUGFLAGS CAS_>
<'DEBUGFLAGS CLK_', DEBUGFLAGS CLK_>
<'DEBUGFLAGS CS_', DEBUGFLAGS CS_>
<'DEBUGFLAGS dif_', DEBUGFLAGS dif_>
<'DEBUGFLAGS DOC', DEBUGFLAGS DOC>
<'DEBUGFLAGS DUN_', DEBUGFLAGS DUN_>
<'DEBUGFLAGS EG_', DEBUGFLAGS EG_>
<'DEBUGFLAGS FIC_', DEBUGFLAGS FIC_>
<'DEBUGFLAGS HH_', DEBUGFLAGS HH_>
<'DEBUGFLAGS HI_', DEBUGFLAGS HI_>
<'DEBUGFLAGS INN_', DEBUGFLAGS INN_>
<'DEBUGFLAGS KC_', DEBUGFLAGS KC_>
<'DEBUGFLAGS MUS', DEBUGFLAGS MUS>
<'DEBUGFLAGS OQ_', DEBUGFLAGS OQ_>
<'DEBUGFLAGS PAG_', DEBUGFLAGS PAG_>
<'DEBUGFLAGS SEA_', DEBUGFLAGS SEA_>
<'DEBUGFLAGS SM', DEBUGFLAGS SM>
<'DEBUGFLAGS SQ', DEBUGFLAGS SQ>
}
[DEBUGINTS...]
{
<'DEBUGINTS', DEBUGINTS>
<'DEBUGINTS con_', DEBUGINTS con_>
<'DEBUGINTS dif_', DEBUGINTS dif_>
<'DEBUGINTS DUN_', DEBUGINTS DUN_>
<'DEBUGINTS EG_', DEBUGINTS EG_>
<'DEBUGINTS HH_', DEBUGINTS HH_>
<'DEBUGINTS KC_', DEBUGINTS KC_>
<'DEBUGINTS OQ_', DEBUGINTS OQ_>
<'DEBUGINTS PAG_', DEBUGINTS PAG_>
<'DEBUGINTS SQ_', DEBUGINTS SQ_>
<'DEBUGINTS sta_', DEBUGINTS sta_>
}
}

[AI Diagnostics...]
{
[Cheats...]
{
[All AIs Blind...]
{
<ON,+BLIND>
<Off,-BLIND>
}
[All AIs Deaf...]
{
<ON,+DEAF>
<Off,-DEAF>
}
[All AIs Deaf, Dumb, and Blind...]
{
<ON,+NOEVIDENCE>
<Off,-NOEVIDENCE>
}
<All AIs Forget,FORGET>
[AI Speed...]
{
<100%,AISPEED 1>
<200%,AISPEED 2>
<50%,AISPEED 0.5>
}
<'KILL PAWNS'(Destroy Pawns), KILL PAWNS>
<'NUKEALL'(Kill Pawns), NUKEALL>
}
[AI Stats...]
{
[Enable For AIs...]
{
<All AIs,AISTATS ALL>
<Nearest AI Only,AISTATS NEAREST>
<Marked AIs Only,AISTATS MARKED>
<Disable,AISTATS Off>
}
[General...]
{
[Past Locations...]
{
<ON,AISTATS +PASTLOCATIONS>
<Off,AISTATS -PASTLOCATIONS>
}
[Sensory...]
{
[Visual Angles...]
{
<ON,AISTATS +VISANGLES>
<Off,AISTATS -VISANGLES>
}
[Visual Ranges...]
{
<ON,AISTATS +VISRANGE>
<Off,AISTATS -VISRANGE>
}
[Audio Ranges...]
{
<ON,AISTATS +AUDIORANGE>
<Off,AISTATS -AUDIORANGE>
}
}
[Anims History...]
{
<ON,AISTATS +ANIMS>
<Off,AISTATS -ANIMS>
}
[Sounds History...]
{
<ON,AISTATS +SOUNDS>
<Off,AISTATS -SOUNDS>
}
}
[Movement/Pathfinding...]
{
[Movement Paths...]
{
<ON,AISTATS +MOVESTATS>
<Off,AISTATS -MOVESTATS>
}
[Local Pathfinding...]
{
[Local Grid...]
{
<ON,AISTATS +LOCALGRID>
<Off,AISTATS -LOCALGRID>
}
[Local Grid Costs...]
{
<ON,AISTATS +LOCALGRIDCOSTS>
<Off,AISTATS -LOCALGRIDCOSTS>
}
[Local Grid Heights...]
{
<ON,AISTATS +LOCALGRIDHEIGHTS>
<Off,AISTATS -LOCALGRIDHEIGHTS>
}
[Sampling Grid...]
{
<ON,AISTATS +SAMPLINGGRID>
<Off,AISTATS -SAMPLINGGRID>
}
}
[Path-Locking...]
{
<ON,AISTATS +PATHLOCK>
<Off,AISTATS -PATHLOCK>
}
}
[Behavior...]
{
[Evidence...]
{
<ON,AISTATS +EVIDENCE>
<Off,AISTATS -EVIDENCE>
}
[Behavior Stats...]
{
<ON,AISTATS +BEHAVIOR>
<Off,AISTATS -BEHAVIOR>
}
}
[Combat...]
{
[Tactics...]
{
<ON,AISTATS +TACTICS>
<Off,AISTATS -TACTICS>
}
[Search Grid...]
{
<ON,AISTATS +SEARCHGRID>
<Off,AISTATS -SEARCHGRID>
}
[Trajectories...]
{
<ON,AISTATS +TRAJECTORY>
<Off,AISTATS -TRAJECTORY>
}
}
}
[NavMesh...]
{
<NavMesh Node-Viewing Mode,NAVMESH SHOW>
<NavMesh Link-Viewing Mode,NAVMESH SHOWLINKS>
<NavMesh Tag-Viewing Mode,NAVMESH SHOWTAGS>
<NavMesh Cover-Point-Viewing Mode,NAVMESH SHOWCOVERPOINTS>
<Hide NavMesh,NAVMESH HIDE>
}
[AI Patrol Paths...]
{
<Show,AIPATROLS SHOW>
<Hide,AIPATROLS HIDE>
}
[Flock Vectors...]
{
<Show,+FLOCKVECTORS>
<Hide,-FLOCKVECTORS>
}
}

[Warfare Diagnostics...]
{
[Statistics...]
{
<Frames Per Second,STAT FPS>
}

[Rendering...]
{
[Debug Modes...]
{
<Toggle Wireframe, WIREFRAME>
<Toggle Portals, DRAWPORTALS>
<Toggle Lit Wireframe, LITWIRE>
<Toggle Fullbright, FULLBRIGHT>
<Toggle Checker, CHECKER>
}
<Toggle FullScreen,TOGGLEFULLSCREEN>
<Get Current Res,GETCURRENTRES>
<Get Color Depth,GETCURRENTCOLORDEPTH>
<Get Color Depths,GETCOLORDEPTHS>
<Get Render Device,GETCURRENTRENDERDEVICE>
<Toggle Shadow Visualization, VISSHADOWS>
<Toggle Shadow Volumes, SHADOWVOLUMES>
}
}

[Physics...]
{
<Show Dynamic Volumes, PHYSICS VOLUMES ON>
<Hide Dynamic Volumes, PHYSICS VOLUMES OFF>
<Show Static Volumes, PHYSICS STATIC ON>
<Hide Static Volumes, PHYSICS STATIC OFF>
<Show Character Volumes, PHYSICS CHARACTERS ON>
<Hide Character Volumes, PHYSICS CHARACTERS OFF>
<Show Ragdoll Volumes, PHYSICS RAGDOLL ON>
<Hide Ragdoll Volumes, PHYSICS RAGDOLL OFF>
}

[Sound...]
{
[Memory...]
{
<Show Memory Bar,RENDER DIAG ADD SOUNDMEMORYBAR>
<Hide Memory Bar,RENDER DIAG KILL SOUNDMEMORYBAR>
}
[List...]
{
<Show Playing,RENDER DIAG ADD SOUNDTABLE>
<Show All,RENDER DIAG ADD SOUNDTABLE ALL>
<Off,RENDER DIAG KILL SOUNDTABLE>
}
[Portals...]
{
<On,RENDER DIAG ADD SOUNDPORTALS>
<Off,RENDER DIAG KILL SOUNDPORTALS>
}
[Paths...]
{
<On,SOUND SHOWPATHS=G>
<Off,SOUND SHOWPATHS=N>
}
[Uncategorized Objects...]
{
<Show,RENDER DIAG ADD UNCATACTORS>
<Hide,RENDER DIAG KILL UNCATACTORS>
}
[Uncategorized BSP...]
{
<Show,RENDER DIAG ADD UNCATBSP>
<Hide,RENDER DIAG KILL UNCATBSP>
}
[Physics-Sound]
{
<Enable,COLLIDE SOUND ON>
<Disable,COLLIDE SOUND OFF>
<Show Diagnostics,COLLIDE SOUND DEBUG ON>
<Hide Diagnostics,COLLIDE SOUND DEBUG OFF>
}
[Footsteps]
{
<Show Diagnostics,FOOTSTEP DEBUG ON>
<Hide Diagnostics,FOOTSTEP DEBUG OFF>
}
}

[Quit...]
{
<Yes,EXIT>
<No, >
}
}

downwinder on 19/7/2022 at 00:28

waits for the board on wanting to fly around maps like superman,or better yet become the juggernaut and just bust through all walls :P

just kidding

it was kinda sad how thief 3 climbing gloves had to be the most limited items ever in a thief game,except for maybe flares :(

Pat1991 on 2/8/2022 at 08:29

And here you go, guys! Enjoy!

(https://youtu.be/AOybOPJP4M4)