Epos Nix on 4/5/2008 at 11:47
How exactly was Manhunt a better game?
Mind you, I played half-way through it, forcing myself the entire way through sheer boredom, and stopped when I finally couldn't take it anymore. So this is an honest question.
foldy on 4/5/2008 at 12:00
I can see why some may prefer San Andreas over its sequel, because it definitely offered some things that GTAIV doesn't. San Andreas was dismissed by some casual gamers for its mild role-playing elements. I can see why Rockstar might have chosen to get rid of those.
SA is my favorite GTA game, but I'm so in love with GTAIV right now, so long as they don't jump the shark and give me an unsatisfying conclusion to the campaign, I'm probably going to end up favoring it. I'm loving the characters (except Manny Escuela), the on foot action, the car chases requiring more patience and being ultimately more satisfying, the more lively, dynamic crowds and traffic that bring about something new every other play session...
Yeah, San Andreas really did have the best sandbox to play around in, but I feel like there's just more going on in this bigger, better version of Liberty City.
Nothing beats a cross-county police chase in SA, though. Nothing.
fetgalningen on 4/5/2008 at 13:02
Rofl. That Uncle Gary guy cracked me up :cheeky:
june gloom on 4/5/2008 at 18:56
Quote Posted by Epos Nix
How exactly was Manhunt a better game?
Mind you, I played half-way through it, forcing myself the entire way through sheer boredom, and stopped when I finally couldn't take it anymore. So this is an honest question.
Clearly you don't like stealth games.
van HellSing on 4/5/2008 at 19:00
Manhunt was ace in the atmosphere department, but the gameplay did get quite repetitive.
Epos Nix on 4/5/2008 at 21:36
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Clearly you don't like stealth games.
Wow. Quite the deduction there!
But let's assume that I
do like stealth games but I prefer a bit more depth to my gameplay and I didn't feel Manhunt had that depth... That considered, how is Manhunt still a better game than GTA? I'm just curious about your opinion.
june gloom on 5/5/2008 at 02:45
It's a better game than GTA because it doesn't try to do everything at once. It is what it is- a stealth game with a big focus on atmosphere. It does something different from games like Splinter Cell and Metal Gear. Now, I enjoy Metal Gear (and fucking loathe Splinter Cell) but they're both military themed. I think on a purely artistic level it's a much more mature game than GTA ever was. While GTA was a cartoon, a caricature, Manhunt shows just how monstrous people can be. Manhunt's gameplay admittedly gets repetitive. (But really, what game DOESN'T get repetitive? Ever think of that? Do you play jRPGs and complain that the game does the same thing over and over again WHAT IS WITH ALL THESE RANDOM BATTLES) But on the other hand it also does something else different from other stealth games- in those the primary goal was evasion. In Manhunt you're the predator, hiding in the shadows to kill those who would hunt you down.
If you don't like that, that's okay.
henke on 5/5/2008 at 06:00
Quote Posted by dethtoll
I think on a purely artistic level it's a much more mature game than GTA ever was. While GTA was a cartoon, a caricature, Manhunt shows just how monstrous people can be.
What do you mean by "purely artistic level"? Manhunt was shallow as hell, bro. Right from the start you can tell who's the good guy is and who's the bad guy. There's zero character-development. The storytelling is choppy and disjointed. In one level it is revealed that the protagonist has a wife and kids, and the bad guys have kidnapped them. 5 minutes ago you didn't know they existed and now you're supposed to risk your life to save them like you really cared or something? So, anyway, you save them, and after that they're never mentioned again. Not that there's anything wrong with that though, it's made in a very deliberate grindhouse style.
But it also means that the story doesn't
need to be good. It has a free pass to be shallow as hell, and it is. By the time the end credits roll, no bigger life-lessons have been learned, it's just been a fun ride. The GTA games, on the other hand, are deceptively smart. There's always subtle comments on current politics and pop-culture throughout em. In GTA(VC and forward, at least) you care about the protagonists. Who gives a shit what happens to James Earl Cash?
I liked Manhunt. So much that I played through it twice. But to say that it is more mature just because it is more violent is crazy.
june gloom on 5/5/2008 at 06:08
You actually claiming Cash to be a "good guy" pretty much negates your entire post. gg nextmap
henke on 5/5/2008 at 09:47
Nice way of weazling yourself out of having to make a rebutal there. Cash is a good guy in the same sense that Tommy Vercetti, Garrett and a dozen other videogame characters are. An immoral man, but still better than the people he's fighting.
