Thirith on 29/4/2008 at 14:53
I just watched that YouTube video. Definitely way more explicit than before. I'd have to see it in the context of the entire game to make up my mind about it; I find it more honest (it's like the sex equivalent to guys getting shot just clutching their chest and falling over vs. blood, pain etc. when someone gets shot), though. Perhaps this is just me, but it makes the act look rather demeaning both to Nico and the prostitutes.
SubJeff on 29/4/2008 at 15:06
It's meant to. Listen to the stuff he says. It's pretty cutting and pretty dark.
van HellSing on 29/4/2008 at 15:19
A friend has GTA IV, he's disappointed. His main complaint is the scripting of missions, here's an example:
He got a mission where he was supposed to chase some guy on a motorbike. The mission was scripted so there wouldn't be too much traffic, but on one try (he had problems finishing the mission) the guy crashed into a car. Now, in previous games, this would result in emergent gameplay - the guy would fall off the bike and you could finish him off. But not GTA IV. Here, the guy on the motorbike rammed the car with the force of a tank, as his route was a completely scripted event.
Yell Piranha on 29/4/2008 at 15:30
My housemate has it now for his 360 and from what I have seen I will echo the reviews for the most part.
The only gripe I have right now is that some of the textures are pretty poor, even on the road in some places.
For you Aja, the cars have a more realistic feel to them. You can not throw them around corners with casual application of the handbrake and they tip and roll etc. I have not had enough play time to get used to this yet and hope it does not spoil the fun of really speeding about for a laugh.
The big bonus is that the cutscenes are now worth watching for more than finding out what you are doing next. They are far more cinematic, helped by the better graphics and lighting of course.
sp4f on 29/4/2008 at 15:31
Having a hell of a lot of fun with GTA4 :D. Just spent a few hours exploring the city with a few friends in a chopper before that comradery eventually descended into anarchy and an 8 man running battle through the city streets.
gunsmoke on 29/4/2008 at 15:33
I am cracking the fuck up at my friend Bill...He went to pop in his brand new GTA IV (which he has been frothing at the mouth about) for the first time, and RED RING OF DEATH<. LOL, his dumb-ass went out and bought a core unit 360 w/his rent money because he couldn't wait for Microsoft to fix his Elite edition for free. Have fun playing it in a box in an alley somewhere.
heretic on 29/4/2008 at 19:59
That's brutal. I've had my copy of GTA4 all day just begging me to take a crack at it, but I'm waiting until tonight. I'm almost glad my system went RROD a couple months back, at least I don't have to worry about that anymore.
Scots Taffer on 30/4/2008 at 00:21
I like how he starts out fairly reasonable (though completely misguided), trying to appeal to her mothering instincts and sense of decency, and slowly devolves into red-mist white-frothing rage where he calls her son a Hitler youth and that she must be proud to bring a mass purveyor of porn and violence (hence RAPE AND MURDERRRR) into the world.
It's amazing how much airplay these deranged lunatics get.
Quote Posted by van HellSing
He got a mission where he was supposed to chase some guy on a motorbike. The mission was scripted so there wouldn't be too much traffic, but on one try (he had problems finishing the mission) the guy crashed into a car. Now, in previous games, this would result in emergent gameplay - the guy would fall off the bike and you could finish him off. But not GTA IV. Here, the guy on the motorbike rammed the car with the force of a tank, as his route was a completely scripted event.
Er, I've never experienced the same "emergent gameplay" in GTA games as you describe - in fact, I recently got irked with San Andreas because of the mission where you have to chase the Mexican buttraper on your motorbike and it doesn't matter how close you get to him, how many times you shoot him or anything, he'll always take off (faster than is possible for the motorbike) and survive the shots (more than any HP any other NPC has). Similarly I'm getting really fucked off with this mission to kill the idiots on top of the train, I can get down to one but then I run out of time and they go off map.
ercles on 30/4/2008 at 07:43
Yeah that train mission was one of the most frustrating parts of San Andreas. My copy of GTAIV is currently on it's way to me, I can't wait to play it. Although I am glad to here that the cinematic stuff has been amped up (as I thought the more cinematic side of SA was very impressive), I hope it remains a game that is fun to just pick up and dick around in, because this has been the sole reason I have played Grand Theft Auto games more than any other recently.
Chimpy Chompy on 30/4/2008 at 08:11
Quote Posted by Scots Taffer
ISimilarly I'm getting really fucked off with this mission to kill the idiots on top of the train, I can get down to one but then I run out of time and they go off map.
That one annoyed the hell out of me too. I think the problem is that if you get too close, Smoke's firing up at a steep angle and the targets are partially obstructed. So try moving away a bit to give him a clearer view.
