Yakoob on 9/11/2012 at 23:27
Just to get an idea, how does it compare to Skyrim? San Andreas I never got past the first city and haven't played the others to get an idea...
SubJeff on 9/11/2012 at 23:47
Quote Posted by Thirith
I don't for one second believe that the game world will be that big in terms of virtual real estate - I very much doubt they can keep up the level of detail players expect these days for that large a world. Even if it's 'just' the size of
San Andreas, though, with the detailling of one of their more recent games, I'll be more than happy.
If it's bigger and detailed enough that gives a lot more space for DLC, no?
demagogue on 10/11/2012 at 06:13
The issue with the size & detail is that GTA4 was like 14 GB. If GTA5 is going to be even bigger than that, then it's getting into territory where of course I can still clear stuff off to play it, but it's hard to keep it on my HD longterm because that's a lot of space to cut off, and I'll have to give other games the axe to keep it. Most other games coming out these days are half the size (so I could have 2 of them for the price of its 1). ArmA2 was pretty big and detailed, and it's only 8 GB.
But the whole advantage of GTA games is they're so sandbox, they're made to keep for longterm on your HD so you can just cruise around and play in the world, or play with mods. I can do that with GTA:SA just fine because it's only 4.5 GB.
But maybe in a few years (laptop) harddrives will be big enough to hold as much as you could want and you won't have to pick between which classic games to keep & cut. I think ~2TB would probably do it.
henke on 10/11/2012 at 09:02
Quote Posted by Yakoob
Just to get an idea, how does it compare to Skyrim? San Andreas I never got past the first city and haven't played the others to get an idea...
Man, that is a good question. Maybe the easiest way to compare would be to get on a horse and ride from one end of RDR's world to the other, then do the same in Skyrim.
Luckily, I happen to have a lot of free time on my hands today. :cool:
Edit:Ok, I'm in RDR, started with my save from the end where all the areas are unlocked, though I'm guessing my horse is also an above-average horse. I've decided I'm going to make my way from Cochinay, up in the mountains, down to the plains just south of Escalera. Those 2 points are just about as far from eachother as you'd find in this game.
Later:I'm now standing in the middle of the camp up in Cochinay. Gonna try to stick to using the roads as much as I can on my way down, though I may take shortcuts in a few places. Hope I don't get bothered by bears, mountainlions and bandits too much on the way down. I got a watch, and a timer in front of me on the table. Here I go.
Time: 12 minutes, 48 seconds. Headed straight southwards first, crossed the border at the eastern-most train bridge, and then did the long gallop west across Mexico. My horse was seriously some kind of superhorse though, whose stamina replenished almost right away meaning I could gallop almost the entire way down.
Gonna shower, eat breakfast and maybe watch some Knight Rider reruns right now. Will do Skyrim later!
Update:Ok, in Skyrim now, by Crystaldrift Cave just south of Riften. Bought a horse in Riften and I'm gonna ride to the Thalmor Embassy just north of Solitude, via the dragonbridge. It seems that since I last played the game horseback archery has been patched in. Neat. Ok here I go.
Time:23:20. Though not only was the terrain in Skyrim more difficult to navigate(had to check my map several times)' my horse was also slower. Overall I'd say Skyrim is slightly bigger though.
Conclusion: So what does all of this mean for GTA V? I have no idea! Though if the hype about the size is true I'd guess that if you were driving an average car it might take you about 30-40min to cross the gameworld in it. Which sounds pretty swell. Hope that turns out to be true.
N'Al on 10/11/2012 at 11:29
henke - better investigative journalism than the BBC!
Thirith on 10/11/2012 at 11:31
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If it's bigger and detailed enough that gives a lot more space for DLC, no?
Oh, my comment has nothing to do with whether I want more space or not - it's just that I don't believe they can do a world that big with the level of detail that Rockstar is famed for, neither in the time they've had at their disposal nor on the hardware that this will primarily be running on (i.e. Xbox 360 and PS3).
henke on 10/11/2012 at 12:51
I don't know about that Thirith. R* have certainly managed to do more than expected before. Remember how much bigger SA was compared to the two earlier games?
And the fact that it didn't have a single loadingzone seemed unbelievable at the time. They've had time to improve on the engine throughout the developments of RDR and LA Noire as well, so I wouldn't be surprised if V was a huge leap technologically from IV.
Quote Posted by N'Al
henke - better investigative journalism than the BBC!
Why thank ya kindly. Really enjoyed playing RDR again actually. Gonna try to do some of the remaining challenges and wrap up some unfinished Stranger's quests now. :)
EvaUnit02 on 10/11/2012 at 20:08
Quote Posted by demagogue
But maybe in a few years (laptop) harddrives will be big enough to hold as much as you could want and you won't have to pick between which classic games to keep & cut. I think ~2TB would probably do it.
Jesus Christ, just buy a ~2TB USB 3.0 external HDD and be done with it. At worst you'll have slightly longer load times than SATA, but it's utterly negligible.
SubJeff on 11/11/2012 at 02:35
Quote Posted by Thirith
Oh, my comment has nothing to do with whether I want more space or not - it's just that I don't believe they can do a world that big with the level of detail that Rockstar is famed for, neither in the time they've had at their disposal nor on the hardware that this will primarily be running on (i.e. Xbox 360 and PS3).
I don't think game size matters any more, for hardware at least. They seem to have finally got the streaming world thing down now, so it loads what is over the horizon and unloads what you've left behind, Dungeon Master style.
If you mean the time it would take to create assets for the game world I needn't worry - the investment is worth it for them and almost necessary as they need to add new features and a bigger gameworld qualifies as one.
CCCToad on 11/11/2012 at 04:34
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
the investment is worth it for them and almost necessary as they need to add new features and a bigger gameworld qualifies as one.
They actually don't need to add new features :) Nowadays, a fancy marketing blitz and hype in the gaming press will be good enough. Hell, the COD games are shit and people still love them just because they're told to love them.
