Lady Rowena on 17/7/2013 at 20:35
Awesome work Purgator, as always! :thumb: Too bad that I just finished to reskin my pagans yesterday...:sweat:
Do you plan to make any thieves in the future?
Vae on 17/7/2013 at 20:39
A "Taffer Pack" would round out the collection, very nicely!...:cool:
R Soul on 17/7/2013 at 20:42
For all skins in general:
The clothes are very good, but the faces have a strange waxy look to them. I had a go at adding some subtle noise to one of the guard textures but it just made him look like he'd been down a coal mine.
sNeaksieGarrett on 17/7/2013 at 20:46
Some variation on thieves would be great!
Purgator, I have an unusual request. Could you make versions of the red grunts you made without the yellow logo on their chests? Also, could you make some more grunt archers with various colors? Purple and black for example? I don't know if you're taking requests, so I'm sorry if this is out of line. I really like that one grunt you have in one of the packs that is wearing black clothes. Actually, I think it was a cop with a black uniform.
LarryG on 17/7/2013 at 20:48
Why can't Pagans sew with small even stitches? They just follow another religion, they're not incompetent or crude ... would those green outfits actually be practical in a forest? No female pagans? Sorry, but on reflection these seem to be flaws in otherwise well done skins.
Vae on 17/7/2013 at 22:15
It seems to me that Purg wishes to use thick leather lacing for that more rugged look and feel...I like it...Female Pagans would be welcome, though.
kdau on 17/7/2013 at 22:47
Quote Posted by LarryG
Why can't Pagans sew with small even stitches? They just follow another religion, they're not incompetent or crude ...
The Amish have religious tenets that did/do limit the sorts of fasteners used on clothing, so it's not unprecedented. Come to think of it, they also live a low-tech lifestyle in separated communities that are closer to the earth. And speak a distinct dialect of a modern language. And yet their theology is in many ways diametrically opposed to the Pagans'... Hmm.
Purgator on 17/7/2013 at 23:23
Quote Posted by LarryG
Why can't Pagans sew with small even stitches? They just follow another religion, they're not incompetent or crude ...
I had actually used the big stitches as a motif, connecting the old pagan skins to mine, my new textures didn't have them originally. Maybe giant "feck off" stitches
are a part of their religion? :cheeky:
I will rustle up some female pagans though, practically attired, of course!
I will certainly give a "Taffer" pack a go too, and more Grunts are on the way (I will throw in some Heraldry free skins too)!
LarryG on 18/7/2013 at 00:46
Quote Posted by kdau
The Amish have religious tenets that did/do limit the sorts of fasteners used on clothing, so it's not unprecedented. Come to think of it, they also live a low-tech lifestyle in separated communities that are closer to the earth. And speak a distinct dialect of a modern language. And yet their theology is in many ways diametrically opposed to the Pagans'... Hmm.
The Amish do beautiful hand stitching. Just because you do something by hand doesn't mean that it has to be crudely done. In fact, hand crafted things are often better crafted than the mass produced machine manufactured. I have some old Amish quilts where the stitching is practically invisible, much better than machine stitched. I just think that those huge stitches would not work in practice and that pagans would take more pride in making their attire.
Take a look at (
http://www.manataka.org/images/Native%20American%20Clohting%20433-4%209781554074334.jpg) this, the clothing is "crude" but the stitching is tiny.
Purgator on 18/7/2013 at 11:56
Quote Posted by R Soul
... but the faces have a strange waxy look to them..
Initially, I had tried more Hi-Res textures for my skins but the old Thief 2 models don't really like 'em all that much.
You do get a lot of distortion in certain areas of the old meshes and you get some nasty effects where Hi-Res meets old Lo-Poly. My skins may appear muted or blurry (or waxy) in certain areas but I have been aiming for a particular style, one that would complement the models rather than hi-lighting their weaknesses. Hair, I tend to keep very low- key, more so than the originals.
The faces are smoother, I've tried to introduce Hi-Lights/shading to them to emulate muscle/bone structure where there obviously isn't. They're artistic devices really (in my particular style) just to add areas of contrast and distinction between clothing, skin and hair. Artistic devices are, of course, in the eye of the beholder.
