Taffer36 on 23/10/2009 at 03:02
Quote Posted by henke
Care to name a game with better bike physics than GTA4? In my view it had the best bike physics since Motocross Madness 2. L&D had different bikes that handled differently than the ones in the vanilla game, sure, but the core physics weren't really updated at all so I don't see what you mean by "MUCH better".
I preferred how they gave the bikes a bit more of a feeling of weight in the Lost and Damned, as opposed to how you would get shoved around constantly in GTA 4. And gluing the player to the bike more was a big plus for me in Lost and Damned, realistic or no.
henke on 23/10/2009 at 05:35
Quote Posted by CCCToad
You just answered your own question.
Yes, that was kinda my point, MM2 came out 9 years ago. Since then has there been another game that comes as close as GTA4? Did you even try the dirtbike in GTA4? I'd say it's handles just as beautifully as the bikes in MM2. Although the lack of huge offroad areas to race around in makes it kinda hard to compare em accurately.
Quote Posted by Iroquois
It's not your disk; the game froze a few times on my PS3 as well. It has more holes than a Michael Bay movie.
Ah, ok.
Aja on 23/10/2009 at 05:52
Excitebike for N64 was always my favourite dirtbike game. Motocross Madness probably'd be second (especially since all of Rainbow's later games, like MX vs ATV, were more or less unchanged).
henke on 23/10/2009 at 07:59
I've tried MX vs ATV, was not impressed. Motorbikes certainly seem like the most difficult vehicle to program and get it feeling right and being fun. Just Cause and SR2 did pretty horribly at it. Test Drive Unlimited, Driv3r and The Getaway: Black Sunday's bikes were ok. Burnout:Paradise and the Midnight Club games' were a lot of fun as long as you were driving fast. Weaving in and out of traffic at high speeds was fun in those games, but when you slowed down to cruisespeed or tried doing doughnuts they just didn't feel... very bikey.
inselaffe on 23/10/2009 at 12:45
The kind of people moaning about the driving in gta4 are the reason that from all previews, it seems as though the driving has been ruined in mafia 2 :tsktsk:
The driving is a lot better and has more depth to it now.
In terms of story I don't know cos i haven't played it so much, however those slaughtering it and then holding san andreas up as a pinnacle of the series is just laughable in that respect. It's not like you expect a credible story anyway.
Matthew on 23/10/2009 at 13:11
San Andreas is the only GTA game I've really enjoyed, except maybe for GTA2. I don't think I'd like GTA4.
Iroquois on 23/10/2009 at 14:17
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The driving is a lot better and has more depth to it now.
It's not a racing game. The driving doesn't need depth, it needs to be functional and flow with the rest of the game.
gunsmoke on 23/10/2009 at 19:13
Quote Posted by Matthew
San Andreas is the only GTA game.
This is the state of the franchise at this point. GTA 3/VC are too dated and GTA IV is just fucked. SA is the only game in the series I can play at this point and not feel like I am either missing huge, game changing features or re-playing GTA 3 (including its limiting your flight options and everything else SanAndreas introduced and/or improved upon) with better graphics and Euphoria (TM) engine antics.
ercles on 24/10/2009 at 02:55
Quote Posted by inselaffe
In terms of story I don't know cos i haven't played it so much, however those slaughtering it and then holding san andreas up as a pinnacle of the series is just laughable in that respect. It's not like you expect a credible story anyway.
Way to miss the point, as stated by many people in this thread. GTA IV did aim for cred, and tried to turn what has so far been been a very light hearted series which just riffed on other games, movies, and music, into a gritty commentary on how fucked up the American dream is. It did retain a lot of its spoof roots, but it really fell awkwardly in between the cartoon reality of previous games, and the serious tone aimed for in GTA IV.
San Andreas had no real pretensions of being serious, beyond the overarching theme of revenge against Tenpenny, and as such its over the top storyline was exceptional.
the_grip on 24/10/2009 at 03:18
loved it loved it
esp. the muscle head dude friend... what was his name? dialog was great
