Pyrian on 20/3/2019 at 22:10
Quote Posted by Buccura
Based on what data?
Heh. That's exactly it, though, isn't? It's been around for a
decade. OnLive is gone. Gaikai is gone. Subscription services
as a whole are a small part of the market, and that's only by including the popular "free" download subscriptions into the same bucket as game streaming.
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https://www.superdataresearch.com/gaming-subscription/)
Bucky Seifert on 20/3/2019 at 22:13
Quote Posted by Pyrian
Heh. That's exactly it, though, isn't? It's been around for a
decade. OnLive is gone. Gaikai is gone. Subscription services
as a whole are a small part of the market, and that's only by including the popular "free" download subscriptions into the same bucket as game streaming.
(
https://www.superdataresearch.com/gaming-subscription/)
That's a valid point, but this is Google we are talking about. Internet speeds have gotten better, and Google has the capability to get this in front of a lot of eyeballs. But, even with that, there is still the valid point of the past failures of this. Really it can go either way, I suppose. This could be either Google's next big thing, or the next Google+.
Yakoob on 21/3/2019 at 06:33
I'm at GDC right now just when this was unveilied. The feedback from all the devs I've chatted about is a resounding groan :p
Personally, I think this is a long-strategy, preparing for when 5G rolls out and internet accessibility improves enough to make it possible. I agree with the points made by @Malf @Nameless Voice, I don't think it will take-over all of gaming, but it could be a MASSIVE chunk of the market. Ask yourself this - how many people playing Fortnite care about mods or "owning" the game? They could as well be streaming it on any device and it would do just as well.
That being said, I'm surprised no one has focused on a streaming service that isn't action game. Turn base strategy, visual novels, adventures, etc. Those wouldn't suffer from the input lag much. They wouldn't be as big jaggernauts as e-sports of shooters, but they could still be a decent business if someone hardcore-focused streaming on that demographic.
Pyrian on 21/3/2019 at 06:51
That would at least make sense. Instead I see people talking about Stadia for VR. ...Lol...
icemann on 21/3/2019 at 06:59
Yakoob: Be sure to check out the Night Dive booth and tell us what you think of the SS reboot.
henke on 21/3/2019 at 08:58
Quote Posted by Nameless Voice
It gets worse. Subscription-based streaming services would take the bulk of the monthly fee for themselves, meaning that developers would earn even less money than they do now.
For this to happen they'd need to take over the market to the point that no other distribution alternatives are viable tho. I think a more likely way this plays out (if it works) is similar to how streaming video services function, where most of the games on Stadia are licensed, and only a small portion are Stadia Originals, where the creators still get a nice payday for developing it.
PigLick on 21/3/2019 at 09:09
On a similar topic, does anyone here use Origin access? I am finding it not bad at all. I basically got it just to play ME:Andromeda, but there are a heap of decent games there, and its a pretty no fuss system to use.
WingedKagouti on 21/3/2019 at 09:37
Quote Posted by PigLick
On a similar topic, does anyone here use Origin access? I am finding it not bad at all. I basically got it just to play ME:Andromeda, but there are a heap of decent games there, and its a pretty no fuss system to use.
I'm expecting this is the kind of stuff Google is looking for, a service lots of people subscribe to so Google has a steady stream of revenue because it offers the players
enough value. The "I got to try out <game x>, so that was good" type of person.
Quote Posted by Yakoob
Ask yourself this - how many people playing Fortnite care about mods or "owning" the game?
Instead of Fortnite you could just say "games" and it'd be just as good an argument. A large section of "core gamers" care more about just getting to play the latest game than being able to tweak a details slider so it runs the way they want it to. If they could get to play every major title (and not just the ones from a single publisher) for a flat fee every month instead of having to plunk down $60+/title, I expect many of them would look at that as a very good deal (if the monthly fee isn't too high).
PigLick on 21/3/2019 at 09:48
Origin is not a streaming service though, you download the games and can play them offline. Its not "enough" value, its exactly the value I was expecting. I am firmly in the "hardcore gamer" market and Stadia doesnt interest me at all.
icemann on 21/3/2019 at 11:31
The thing with services like this is the need for a damn good internet connection. Connection speeds that aren't even REMOTELY possible in many countries. In Australia for example, the best you can get is 100mbps. And even that's rare to get. Compare that to the US where it's something like 1gbps (or 1000mbps) as a standard. The world's communication tech isn't ready for this yet.
The other side to it, is that many people prefer to actual own the console / system. Not just be paying for a service, where if they stop paying for it, they lose that service and those games. That super nintendo sitting in your basement that you paid for. You can use that whenever you want and play the games that you paid for, whenever you want. Even if you never give another dollar to Nintendo. With services like this, the second you stop paying, it's gone.
No thank you.
It's a similar reason why I stick with older versions of Microsoft Office, as with those you have them for life. No extra cash needed. Whereas the newer versions are all subscription based. No thanks. Especially when you have Google Docs for free.