bikerdude on 15/12/2008 at 21:44

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Just an update on the state of monitor technology with a view to making Thief a much more enjoyable afair on LCD screens.

A quick refresher on Panel types
* S-IPS/H-IPS panels are generally considered the best all around panel type, but they are more expensive and very few are made. High end, expensive.
* S-PVA/MVA panels offer better color reproduction and viewing angles than TN panels, have slightly worse response times than TN or S-IPS, offer the best contrast ratios, may suffer from color shifting or input lag and have higher availability than S-IPS panels. Mid range, fair price.
* TN panels are very cheap and have the fastest response times, but suffer from inferior color reproduction, contrast ratios and viewing angles. Low end, inexpensive.
Some IPS info links
* Backlight bleed, a quick explanation - (http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/backlight-bleeding.php) link
* Comprehensive list of IPS based screens - (http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/s-ips-lcd-list.php) Link
* Mini review of S-IPS versus H-IPS - (http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1262785) link
In reference to the S-IPS mini review link above an example of H-IPS v S-IPS
http://www.toastyx.net/nec-planar-earth.sm.jpg

So in reference to the pic above my oldish S-IPS based NEC 20wgx2pro dosent have A-TW polarizer that comes with some H-IPS based screens. So my NEC when viewed off-center in the dark, we can see a slight glow. So with that in mind my next monitor will either be an H-IPS w/polarizer or Super-PVA/MVA based screen.

Also my orginal LCD for Thief thread - (http://www.ttlg.com/FORUMS/showthread.php?t=122056)

bikerdude on 16/12/2008 at 13:18

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What S-PVA HP monitor did you got for in the end...?

bikerdude on 16/12/2008 at 14:33

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Well laggy can be quite subjective, for most users, an input lag is generally not an issue and will not be notices. However, every person responds individually in this regard and each PC system demonstrates different "basic lags". Both factors affect the threshold beyond which an input lag actually becomes noticeable. From what I could find its the next best thing to my monitor, so buy it over the net so if there is a prob you can send it back under the 7 day dsd.

found ot here for £242 inc - (http://www.kikatek.com/product_info.php?products_id=80933&source=froogle)

here is another review of that monitor - (http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2008/review-hp-lp2275w.html#Introduction)

Somthing I found out about the HP, it has a noticabley better black level than my NEC, 0.12 versus 0.3 - this is one of the key benefits of PVA/MVA technology and here is a link about said levels of my nec - (http://www.hardforum.com/archive/index.php/t-1261250.html)

Also my orginal LCD for Thief thread - (http://www.ttlg.com/FORUMS/showthread.php?t=122056)

bikerdude on 16/12/2008 at 17:47

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Its was a pic I found on the web, the only way I can do what your asking is when I get a new monitor, and I havent settled on what one Im gonna get yet :-) Its either gonna be an H-IPS or S-PVA based depending on spec, price and value for money.

Aja on 16/12/2008 at 18:47

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hey I'm using a laptop now, so unless I plug it into my clunky CRT (which I CAN), I'm stuck playing washed-out Thief as well (though I suppose mine's probably just a TN)