Gimme a BBT with mashed potatoes and gravy.

Enchantermon on 10/4/2009 at 19:22

Quote Posted by New Horizon

Long story short, Billy Bob jumped the gun and flew off over a complimentary introduction.

You wouldn't say that to Tom Petty, would you?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

fett on 10/4/2009 at 19:35

AND ANOTHER THING

If you're comparing yourself to Tom Petty, like he's the height of artistic eclecticism, you've got way bigger problems than being in a band that sucks-ass. As a matter of fact, it may be the exact reason why your band sucks ass.

suliman on 10/4/2009 at 22:18

I assumed Tom Petty was just the first musician he could think about.

fett on 10/4/2009 at 22:52

Which further solidifies my position.

New Horizon on 10/4/2009 at 23:33

Quote Posted by Stitch

LONG STORY SHORT,

NEW HORIZON HAS WORKED AS AN ARTIST, IN FILM, AND AS A MUSICIAN

Well, I have. Graphic Designer, actor/dancer and singer/song writer. I'm a certified computer repair tech too. ;)

fett on 10/4/2009 at 23:39

NH is right though. If you've ever actually been involved in the industry even a little, you've come across a million "artists" with BBT's attitude, and they usually wear it as a substitute for talent.

Nicker on 11/4/2009 at 00:29

Well I am a drummer and I can tell that BBT's sense of timing is wonky and his meter slips noticeably in live clips. His singing is strictly mediocre. I mean, everyone in Hollywood can carry a tune, pretty much. It's like a prerequisite, ain't it?

I mean, if his second gig was particle physics and he resolved the GUT, I'd be amazed at the breadth of his talent. But if you want to be accepted on the merits of your abilities, you'd better have some. Vanity, thy name is Billy.

jtr7 on 11/4/2009 at 17:34

From his website:

Quote:

Billy Bob Thornton traces his music career back to learning drums at the tender age of nine years old. After performing throughout high-school, Thornton went on to play in several groups, most notably a ZZ Top tribute band, Tres Hombres, building a strong following opening for such legendary performers as Humble Pie, the MC5, Hank Williams Jr., Ted Nugent, the Earl Scruggs Review...

(http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&searchlink=BILLY|BOB|THORNTON&sql=11:j9fuxq90ldke~T4)

It's no surprise, with the reputation he already had years ago, that that asshole doesn't dance to the beat of the any drummer but his own--and maybe Frank Beard's. Yeah, he's a tool--irrelevant, really--I understand his disgust, and no I don't believe anybody who's established themselves has to continue jumping through corporate hoops when the reward of doing what you love, and not having to worry about the money, take precedence.

On a somewhat-related note: I loved it when Kevin Smith told that radio show host to cut the crap with the long intro and get on with the discussion. Amen.

Anyway, the raging hypocrisy and irony of tools demanding politeness, restraint, and graciousness from another human being has me laughing mirthlessly at what is clearly an attack out of jealousy. Do you consider yourselves board-members with stock in Billy Bob's soul that he should just smile for you when slighted? You're supposed to see a human being, not a product, a person trying to control his own image, wresting it away from popular assumption, then having it undermined immediately, and then taking control of it again by saying "Fuck this" and trashing his image on his own terms. I thought he was quite lucid and not pulling a Joaquin, though initially disbelieving and dumbfounded that his wishes were ignored.

If anyone still thinks he was actually equating himself with Tom Petty in character and musicianship, then the correct analogy is totally lost on you.

I don't care much for BBT as a person, myself, but this is a chance to hammer at the consumer mindset that sees people in the entertainment industry as something other than a fully-fleshed out human being we only know very little about. Once again, this says more about us, than him, and that's what an artist does. If you choose not to look in the mirror honestly, then it won't be long before you get outraged by a human being getting pissed off for not being in control of his/her life and doing something rash--because they are famous, and you think you own a piece of them. Boycott the product. Take your own shallow advice and say to your own selves, "I don't have to watch his movies, or listen to his music. Nobody's forcing me to. Go watch or listen to something else." That'll teach 'im, and so will spreading the word 'cross the world wide web that BBT's a lowdown dirty tool, PERIOD.:laff::laff::eww::nono:

We could be better, we could evolve beyond, but we choose to stagnate, we choose entropy, and we will eventually collapse as a society, by our own useless hands, either directly to ourselves, or while watching another society come in and take control. And it will happen again, and again, and again, and--WTF? My calm, long-winded diatribe interrupted by BSG?

Jason Moyer on 11/4/2009 at 17:53

Quote Posted by fett

Write a fucking song that someone remembers and maybe we will BBT. It worked for Paul McCartney and John Lennon.

The line of musicians who wrote popular songs and were also creative and technically proficient basically ends with Lennon and McCartney*, though, which makes it a somewhat unfair goal. Unless you're implying you'd have more respect for Billy Bob if he were Britney Spears or someone, since she has such incredible staying power (and has managed to have a longer career than the Beatles, despite not having any notable artistic skills).

*since someone is inevitably going to argue that, I should probably point out that it's clearly fucking hyperbole

fett on 11/4/2009 at 23:49

All I know is I listened to about four of their songs after reading the OP and I couldn't hum a single line of any of them if you held a gun to my head. People who insist on being treated like an "artist" (whatever the hell that term means anymore) based solely on the fact that they are in a band or write songs are tools in general. Cosmic cowboy music my ass.