smithpd on 20/3/2021 at 23:02
I think it would be good to add it to the Supreme rules as well. It may be redundant, but it would be clear.
klatremus on 20/3/2021 at 23:20
Ok, edited.
lordhern on 21/3/2021 at 05:41
I had always treated the damage to the icicles as a bust. I guess trail of blood can be declared as a ghost success then as I can finish that level with nothing more than a few first alerts. Nice.
klatremus on 21/3/2021 at 06:03
In olddark I was able to without first alerts even, so hopefully that can be Supreme ghosted now. Trail of Blood is coming up soon for me.
lordhern on 21/3/2021 at 06:53
Occassionaly when bashing icicles I thought I can dected first alearts from the tree beasts - dunno for sure as i might be confusing it with an FM i've played.
klatremus on 21/3/2021 at 07:08
Really? I never noticed that, but I will for sure be on the lookout (or hearout).
Cigam on 21/3/2021 at 16:33
Just to check:
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Unavoidable consequences triggered at the same time as completing a required objective, as long as it doesn't alert any enemies, are excused...
To me this sounds like an alarm that alerts enemies who are near enough to hear it, is not excused? UNLESS if it is a scripted alert, as opposed to being a real-time reaction to an alarm that sounded as soon as you completed an objective? Is that correct?
Quote:
in-game shops, are ok to use as long as you are not spotted and do not break any other rules.
Presumably by "spotted" you meant by enemies? It's OK if the shopkeeper and any neutral customers see you? I am 99.9% sure this is what was meant I am just envisioning someon staying out of a shop if there are friendly customers in there :)
Galaer on 21/3/2021 at 19:39
Quote Posted by Cigam
Presumably by "spotted" you meant by enemies? It's OK if the shopkeeper and any neutral customers see you? I am 99.9% sure this is what was meant I am just envisioning someon staying out of a shop if there are friendly customers in there :)
You are generally correct, but in some FMs if neutral AI will see you doing some shady activity, for example: pickpocketing somebody else or opening door you should not to open, it will result in their behavior changing from neutral to hostile. And then they start alerting to you despite starting as neutral AI, which can bust your ghost.
klatremus on 21/3/2021 at 20:40
Cigam: You are correct on both points, though the script situation is tricky. That's why the rules say to always confirm with the ghosting community before excusing busts and claiming a success. Scripts are difficult to detect and customized for each mission, so a second opinion is often needed. Its safer to always call it a bust when enemies alert.
marbleman on 23/3/2021 at 16:06
Would taking the keeper book in Endless Rain be allowed for Supreme now?