Brian The Dog on 10/4/2010 at 16:41
You mean the Daily Mail told me wrong? :ebil:
SD on 10/4/2010 at 18:10
Free tit jobs is really the last piece of government spending I would ever consider complaining about.
Here's to a bigger, bouncier future.
scumble on 11/4/2010 at 07:44
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
Forget the figures, take it from someone who works for the NHS - this government has ballsed up so much by bending to the will of people who want "fair play" rather than people who want to actually have a safe, functional healthcare system.
What concerns me more is that budget pressures will force some hasty cost-cutting, rather than sensibly reducing the least important treatments, because it's fairly obvious the British taxpayer can't afford everything and politicians clearly don't have the will to do anything fundamental to help.
Any politician who says he is going to massively cut things to save the public finances probably won't have a very successful campaign, so are we going to get a government continuing to spend like a sailor on shore-leave? Probably.
SubJeff on 12/4/2010 at 15:36
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Any politician who says he is going to massively cut things to save the public finances probably won't have a very successful campaign
The simple answer to this is to charge people a small amount for everything. Visit to GP or A&E - £1. Day case operation -£5, hospital attendance of any type requiring an overnight stay - £5. Or something. Big A&Es can have 1000 people attending in 24hrs (
shudders at the thought of having to work in A&E) so we're talking up to £7000 per week, and therefore up to around £35k per year and I really don't think £1 is too much to ask.
This would soon sort things out. People would freak out about it though, which is ridiculous imho. What is more ridiculous than that is that I'm not supposed to use my anaesthetic gas of choice, without "good reason", because it's more expensive than the other stuff even though everyone knows its easier to use and therefore safer and also nicer for people :mad:
SD on 12/4/2010 at 16:46
The central idea of the NHS is that it is free at the point of use. Didn't you get the memo?
SubJeff on 12/4/2010 at 17:34
Great. The point of a road is to allow you drive from A to B, but if its so full of potholes you can't reliably or safely use it then its time to do something about it. I'm not talking about loads of money, a few quid here and there. If you work you pay for prescriptions so what's the big dealio?
And why the hell do I have to use a metaphor to explain this, ffs?
ACT SMILEY on 12/4/2010 at 23:30
It took them less than a decade to turn higher education from free into something that can cost 5 figures, I certainly wouldn't expect it to take long for it to get that way for the NHS.
ilweran on 13/4/2010 at 14:12
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
If you work you pay for prescriptions so what's the big dealio?
Not in Wales, which is great if you can actually get to see your GP which is insanely difficult due to the stupid 'appointment within 48 hours' target crap that seems to be interpreted as meaning you can't ever book an appointment in advance, you have to phone up at 8am on the day you want the appointment and be kept on hold only to be told there are no appointments left.
And its an 0844 number.
:nono:
I guess I'll be voting Labour as I live in the (
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/election2010/results/constituency/w12.stm) Rhondda and it seems unlikely there's going to be a huge swing to the Lib Dems, I'm not voting Plaid and hell will freeze over before I'll vote Tory.
R Soul on 13/4/2010 at 14:44
So you're voting for labour because you won't be voting for the others?
Chimpy Chompy on 13/4/2010 at 16:20
ilweran it wasn't clear from your post but if you do like the Lib Dems more, while they won't get the Rhondda seat the Labour majority is so huge that no-one else will either. So there's no need to vote tactically just to keep tories out.
