PeeperStorm on 8/5/2010 at 01:03
Quote Posted by Brian The Dog
Good to see the Greens get a seat in Parliament for the first time.
When one of the reporters on BBC America mentioned this last night, it was probably the only time I've ever seen one of their correspondents get visibly excited about any news report.
jay pettitt on 8/5/2010 at 10:28
London types, and those not too far away, might like to get themselves to Trafalgar Square for 2pm to join a demo for voting reform.
SubJeff on 8/5/2010 at 19:11
Whilst I find your pic amusing in and of itself, CCC, it's really not appropriate and you'd know this if you ever paid attention to anything.
There you are SD. You must be rooting for the Cameregg love in, yes?
thefonz on 8/5/2010 at 19:25
My earlier youtube posting of the Blackadder Election Night seems to be appropriate to refer here.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLDcPCVU0lY) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLDcPCVU0lY
SD on 8/5/2010 at 19:51
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
There you are SD. You must be rooting for the Cameregg love in, yes?
Are you fucking kidding me?
The Tories' idea of proportional representation is representation proportional to your income.
Cameron's only concessions to us are stuff he was going to do anyway, like abolition of Orwellian ID cards. I would much rather do a deal with a Brownless Labour party, we can extract more of what we want from them.
Voting reform is the dealbreaker for me.
SubJeff on 8/5/2010 at 20:39
Quote Posted by SD
The Tories' idea of proportional representation is representation proportional to your income.
GTFO
steo on 8/5/2010 at 21:43
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
GTFO
GTFO
Brian The Dog on 8/5/2010 at 21:55
Quote Posted by SD
Are you fucking kidding me?
The Tories' idea of proportional representation is representation proportional to your income.
Cameron's only concessions to us are stuff he was going to do anyway, like abolition of Orwellian ID cards. I would much rather do a deal with a Brownless Labour party, we can extract more of what we want from them.
Voting reform is the dealbreaker for me.
And herein lies Nick Clegg's problem. The Lib Dem leadership want the chance at Power - the question is do they support the Tories or Labour? The latter is what the general party wants, but the leadership don't want to be seen propping up an unpopular party that lost the election, especially when there's going to have to be massively unpopular budget decisions made pretty soon. Plus the maths mean that a LabLib coalition would only squeek a majority so would be very fragile. Portillo was interviewed on the Radio this evening and he said that the Lib Dems is really at least two parties - the leadership is somewhat of a cross between Labour and the Conservatives, whereas the grassroots is somewhat of a cross between Labour and the Greens. One of my (Conservative) friends suggested this is one reason why the Lib Dems did so poorly in the share of the vote vs the opinion polls during the TV debates - the public like Clegg, but they're not keen on the Lib Dem candidates being put forward in their area. This is a problem for Clegg as the leadership has agreed to talk with the Tories, but the general party will be much more hardline. He can't be too friendly to Cameron or he'll upset the die-hard members (or which there are many). He can't say "screw you" to him either as the pound willl disappear down the plug-hole in the next week or so due to Cameron not being able to do anything about the deficit, and he'd be blamed for it.
"Parties within Parties" in something all parties have to deal with, and it's why Cameron can't give too much away - he'd have more pissed off backbenchers rebelling than he would get Lib Dem support :(
