RocketMan on 9/3/2009 at 03:33
Another use for acetone is cleaning the heavily stained table that I'll violate her on.
june gloom on 9/3/2009 at 03:38
You'll have to wait your turn for the biology experiment.
PigLick on 9/3/2009 at 04:35
comm chat never used to be so sexist, or juvenile. Also, first grey hairs in my beard, what suck.
DDL on 9/3/2009 at 11:39
I'd have to say that on balance, adding fucking nail polish remover to your fuel tank (I assume you'd be doing this manually, too?) is a bad, bad idea.
Even if it were to provide a minor increase in fuel efficiency (which is apparently highly debatable), you're handling an extremely volatile, slightly carcinogenic paint stripper that can knock you the fuck out, while also handling gasoline. It has 'inadvisable' written all over it.
Plus it's a pretty decent organic solvent, so if you've got any plastic or rubber fittings at any point in your fuel filling system, they'd get eaten through. Not instantly, obviously, but eventually. Leaving your car standing could also presumably allow it to accumulate acetone vapour which'd start eating through accessible rubber fittings too. And make your car smell of..well, nail varnish remover.
RocketMan on 9/3/2009 at 21:57
You have a valid point about the sensitivity of certain polymers to solvents. There are a couple of instances that I've read about where the acetone attacked certain fuel line components but these cases were rare and IIRC were only for a couple of Toyotas with cheap materials in their fuel line. I certainly don't have anything to report after 2 years of use. Also I use a funnel and flask at the gas station rather than mixing chemicals in a jerry can or something so it's actually a pretty clean and simple operation.
Nobody seems to be addressing the physics of combustion or the chemistry of the fuel here. Just a lot of dismissal and conjecture. Would be really nice if someone educated in one of these areas could say yes or no with an explanation. I'm pretty good in the physics dept. but without knowing anything about the properties of acetone or ethanol, I'm just as much in the dark as most who have looked into this idea.
jtr7 on 9/3/2009 at 22:10
The context is a vehicle that wasn't made with acetone in mind, so the concerns stem from that and your health and safety. Are you wearing gloves and goggles, in a well-ventilated area, and are you pumping the gas into a grounded container?:p
Combustive properties alone can be addressed but it won't be easy finding someone who will just tell you that, without regard for the intended use, or where this combustion will take place (your specific engine with its specific components), and under various conditions. Also, 99.19968573% of us aren't educated in the sciences required. We're just as likely to Google an answer ourselves, even those of us who have an education in one required field.
RocketMan on 9/3/2009 at 22:55
Yeah...you're right about that. Guess I'm just fishing for information cuz the internet is so uterly full of crap.
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Are you wearing gloves and goggles, in a well-ventilated area, and are you pumping the gas into a grounded container?
No gloves or goggles, pouring acetone from tin into flask and then into funnel inserted into gas tank opening prior to filling from the pump. Container is grounded to 3000 lbs of Grand Am. I may get the occasional drop on my hand but I don't smell anything from the distance I'm standing and I pour very slowly.
I find it hard to measure the effects precisely as my trips vary per tank, my power is good but that varies with tuning and my emissions show 0 on my drive clean test (can't compare to other tests cuz I've only had 1 ever). I suspect it may be screwing with my fuel trims though cuz I've had to richen my air table by 20 - 25% in some cases and it COULD be this "cooling effect" of the acetone at work. If this is the case then I may actually have a bit more power because of it.
JonesCrusher on 9/3/2009 at 23:24
Hey...get yerself a Diesel engine in your car/truck...then you can run it on old Chip fat...like we do over here.......just put a few % additives in and away you go....smelling like an old Chippy as you gun it down the street...:cool:
dvrabel on 9/3/2009 at 23:56
Quote Posted by RocketMan
Nobody seems to be addressing the physics of combustion or the chemistry of the fuel here. Just a lot of dismissal and conjecture.
You have it the wrong way round. It's for the promoters of acetone to present the sound scientific evidence for its benefits. Everyone else simply has to debunk flawed research and bogus claims.
Printer's Devil on 10/3/2009 at 00:11
Please explain why increased fuel efficiency would NOT be highly desirable for the cartels that currently control energy production.
