potterr on 8/9/2008 at 09:59

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This is kind of common with some FMs (Avoiding Mistrust for example) when played on normal difficulty level. Most will indicate in the readme about this. Basically it seems that either T3Ed has some kind of bug that means when the FM is compiled it will always crash when saving in normal mode (and if completing and moving back to the original missions will also crash), or we don't know enough about the editor and that there is something extra required when compiling to make saves work for normal difficulty.


That doesn't help the situation really.The best setup is to have a savegames folder wherever you want which contains only the game created folders and files (i.e. files created when you save the game). GarrettLoader by default creates an allsaves folder in the root of your T3 install i.e. c:\program files\thief - deadly shadows\allsaves (unless you are playing on Windows Vista which should really be installed outside the program files folder e.g. c:\games\thief - deadly shadows. Now what may be happening here is that if your allsaves folder is in your savegames folder, every time you now install an FM, GL will be zipping up your allsaves folder with any previous savegame zips inside it, creating bigger and bigger zips every time (as you will end up with zipped up zips containing zipped up zips, etc).


You shouldn't really need to unzip any savegame zips though as GL will do that when you install FMs anyway.

Your best bet here is to firstly check you have an allsaves folder in the root of your T3 install folder, if you do then that's where GL will be adding your save game zips to.
Next locate your savegames folder and delete the savegames folder from inside it and the allsaves folder as well. You should then only have something like an savesindex.ion file, a USER OPTIONS folder and likely several folders with guid names (Globally Unique ID, 36 character folder names made up of seemingly random numbers and letters, although no other PC will have a folder named the same (unless manually created)).
If you now have that then you should be fine to play and saves will work ok (unless its for normal difficulty on some FMs).

sexypat on 9/9/2008 at 02:02

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thank you very much !! it worked !!

Petike the Taffer on 1/1/2009 at 22:01

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Oooh, sorry for the necromancy...

I have a few questions about GL :

- Do I need a working T3Ed to run TDS fan missions ?

- How should I rearrange my save folders, so that the FM stuff would not overwrite or erase them completely ?

Thanks.

Beleg Cúthalion on 2/1/2009 at 08:13

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Save games are saved by GL, just like DarkLoader does. Putting only TDS FMs into one folder speeds GL up since it checks every file for its content. Oh, and the beta version of GL is a lot more safe regarding run time errors. Unless you PM potterr and ask for a link, I recommend de-installing the FM everytime after playing, so your TDS directory is not messed up if GL decides not to start after closing.

Beleg Cúthalion on 2/1/2009 at 15:53

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The current (beta) version is something around 1.45 AFAIK. The menu video should have been managed by GL, too; don't know why it didn't work. JohnP's texture pack changes the original map files, FMs come with their own, that's why their textures rely on the author's choice or the use of the ibt shrinker (which deletes some textures for saving disk space). After uninstalling the FM they should be there again also.

PS: Just to make it clear: While an FM is installed your TDS directory is changed. Messing around there could be really nasty.